Brz and frs are the exact same cars except for the badges and bumpers.
The motor says both Toyota and Subaru on them both. Lol
They're pretty slow but handle corners very well.
They have enough different parts and alignment settings to make them pretty different in terms of handling. They also have totally different interiors. (The BRZ is far better for the money) But they're all really Subarus. All their VINs start out JF, which is Fuji Heavy Industry- Subaru. Subaru basically did the entire car, except for the Toyota gearbox and fuel injection.
Actually, the BRFSZRTGF68- Celica feels underpowered. When you're driving it on anything but a twisty road, it feels like it needs about 100 more torque. At least the twisty bit is what I've been told. On normal roads, where I've driven both, it feels like it needs about 100 more torque. Even my 240 has more wheel torque. And then with the new Mustang coming out with IRS and a turbo 4, in the same price range, there are certainly more options to consider. The Subuyota Celica was fine in 2012 when the only car like it in any respect was the Miata (and even they aren't really comparable) but the other manufacturers have taken notice. I feel like it will cease to be good enough pretty soon here, unless Toyobaru do something about it.
The Miata really didn't feel like it was underpowered. Sure the numbers suck, but the thing weighs like 8lbs so they don't really suck.
I'm not really a big fan of the S2000 though. The Miata has a personality, and sure it's a slow car for that. But the S2000 is a bit cold. It's very Honda. That makes it an excellent car. But it doesn't necessarily make it a fun car for me. Besides, VTEC is like all the lag of a turbo, but none of the boost.
Anyway, I'm gonna go try and extract a cylinder head.