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Unread 02-27-2014, 11:27 AM   #30526
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Stanced out? No. But it seems that everyone on the local drift group does that as their first "mod." "Hey I just got my (insert RWD vehicle here) and can't wait to weld the diff so I can drift!" Open diff it, or do it right... otherwise don't drift it.
If it's only used for drifting and nothing else, the welded diff is fine (cheap solution). However, if driving it on the street, track, etc. is in the plans, a welded diff is just stupid.

Along that line, people ask me regularly why I'm still running a stock trac-lok in the back of my ZJ and not an Aussie. Simple answer: it's my DD and the Aussie would drive me insane on the street (and I go through tires fast enough already).

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Unread 02-27-2014, 11:30 AM   #30527
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Right exactly... but a lot are their only cars.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 11:38 AM   #30528
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I'm not even into the whole drift scene. That's a big reason a helical LSD is attractive: it infinitely varies power across the axle to the wheel with the most grip, with no positive lockup. Of course in situations where oversteer becomes a thing, it can make the rear end less predictable than a clutch-type. I still haven't decided what to do with it, but the options are there.

I just can't stand when people half-*** something. And you see it all the time with this car. Half-baked matte black paint, dropped on some **** lowering kit, welded diff, stretched tires. Screw that.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #30529
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Put spacers in the front upper lca mounts. Noticed them in the box from IRO after I installed the arms. Figured that's where they went since I had a rattle after installing lol.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 11:43 AM   #30530
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Personally, I'm a fan of clutch type LSDs due to their predictability. A helical or torsen is ok, but IMO, not as consistent as a clutch type (and if you have too big a traction difference, it won't always help you).

I'll be rebuilding my LSD in the ZJ this summer and I'm going to try to pack the clutches differently to make it a bit tighter than stock (and definitely better than the current worn clutches).
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Unread 02-27-2014, 01:17 PM   #30531
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Personally, I'm a fan of clutch type LSDs due to their predictability. A helical or torsen is ok, but IMO, not as consistent as a clutch type (and if you have too big a traction difference, it won't always help you).

I'll be rebuilding my LSD in the ZJ this summer and I'm going to try to pack the clutches differently to make it a bit tighter than stock (and definitely better than the current worn clutches).
Same here, but I can get a good torsen for my 240 for $400, whereas the cheapest CLSD is $800, and good CLSDs are closer to $1000. For the kind of driving I do, a torsen should offer the advantages I'm looking for, but I do like the predictable behavior of a CLSD. Like I said, I haven't decided which is the right answer yet. There is still cost-benefit analysis to be performed.

And while I'm doing that, I'm glad to have this Jeep I can daily drive comfortably so I can finally make the 240 the project I always wanted her to be.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 01:50 PM   #30532
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So I've decided to go all out on the ZJ. Ive decided to throw 1 ton axles under her. Ive already got a Dana 60 out of a Ram 2500. Just need to figure out what I want to use for the front. 4 linking the rear and reinforcing the unibody are soon to come. Ive got a buddy who's got a small N/A turbo cummins. Contemplating picking that up and throwing it in. In the air between that and just leaving the 4.0 till it dies.

We'll see which way I end up going with everything. Still in the thinking/planning process.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 03:30 PM   #30533
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So I've decided to go all out on the ZJ. Ive decided to throw 1 ton axles under her. Ive already got a Dana 60 out of a Ram 2500. Just need to figure out what I want to use for the front. 4 linking the rear and reinforcing the unibody are soon to come. Ive got a buddy who's got a small N/A turbo cummins. Contemplating picking that up and throwing it in. In the air between that and just leaving the 4.0 till it dies.

We'll see which way I end up going with everything. Still in the thinking/planning process.
Really the best choice for front tons is the HP60, then it's just down to BJ/kingpin and outers.

I have seen some nice ford 9" with d60 outers up front, but thats a bit of fab.

N/A turbo?

Nobody has really found a good diesel that fits in our engine bays, the guy with the 4bt swap had to do major firewall rework to get his to fit.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 07:36 PM   #30534
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Drove it to the JY today to see what was new, and saw my first ever JY Niner. She was in pretty sad shape. Regular grill and some different stock wheels on it but definitely a Niner. (Sniffle)
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Unread 02-27-2014, 07:38 PM   #30535
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drove it to town, noticed a stall. the cel is not coming on when i start now, so looks like ecu is bad again . i can't stand this thing sometimes.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 07:46 PM   #30536
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Tried out the 4HI again after getting it out of 4PT that it was stuck in the other day. It seems to have gotten stuck again, after switching back to 2WD. I'm not really sure what's up with it, its never behaved this way before. I tried the solution comptiger5000 mentioned and I slalomed back and forth a bit, and after hitting a light patch of ice it finally disengaged.

I'd rather get it solved before we get the 10+ inches this weekend were rumored to get. So tired of working in a driveway.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 08:46 PM   #30537
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Since my 249's VC is clearly shot... I pulled the front drive shaft. No more binding! No more front diff whine! Yay.

Never mind that it's been raining all day... I certainly got sideways. Can't wait for a 242 or 231.

But I also want 3.5-4" lift. Because I also want 265/75R16's.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 10:50 PM   #30538
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So i was looking for a new set of c6 vette wheels for my car, and on OE Wheels noticed they had a dodge section so just took at a look at those and found a set of 20" challenger wheels, and though those would look bad on a ZJ, too bad they probably aren't the same bolt pattern. well a zj is 5x4.5 or in metric 5x114.3 and those wheels were 5x115. If I had money to blow, that'd be what I buy. go look at a wheel and imagine it on a ZJ.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels_3/...T#.UxAiC_ldVtg
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Unread 02-28-2014, 12:03 AM   #30539
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So i was looking for a new set of c6 vette wheels for my car, and on OE Wheels noticed they had a dodge section so just took at a look at those and found a set of 20" challenger wheels, and though those would look bad on a ZJ, too bad they probably aren't the same bolt pattern. well a zj is 5x4.5 or in metric 5x114.3 and those wheels were 5x115. If I had money to blow, that'd be what I buy. go look at a wheel and imagine it on a ZJ.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels_3/...T#.UxAiC_ldVtg
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Unread 02-28-2014, 01:37 AM   #30540
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Found this, was wondering why my ride quality went to **** and I suddenly had so much front end clunking...



Soooo anyone know of an affordable quick disco that would work at stock height and with a 2.25 lift? Everything I find specifies for 3+ inches of lift which doesn't really help me right now.
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