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post #2851 of 44343 Old 06-22-2011, 10:26 PM
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Yeah, but I like my 249 (...let the flaming begin...). Who's to say if I got a JY 249 that the VC is bad or is going to go bad relatively soon? I'd feel more comfortable getting a new VC and putting it in my 249, when the situation arises.
You like wasting gas? No turning back after I got 2wd. You can only get a new VC from the dealer and they're $1100. Take your chances on a jy 249 going bad (if it isnt already when you get it) or get a 231 or 242 that bolts right in for under $200. To me its a no brainer.

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post #2852 of 44343 Old 06-22-2011, 11:12 PM
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Yeah, but I like my 249 (...let the flaming begin...). Who's to say if I got a JY 249 that the VC is bad or is going to go bad relatively soon? I'd feel more comfortable getting a new VC and putting it in my 249, when the situation arises.
was talking about a 242 haha, that way you still get the AWD. i agree i do like having AWD but miss 2WD.

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post #2853 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 01:24 AM
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Swapped my injectors to 703's, and removed the odd thrumming caused by the old injector's gradually dying. I also eliminated some of what I thought was an exhaust leak with it, the exhaust leak is still there but the injectors are no longer adding to the noise. With the fuel filter, and the new injector's its running a lot smoother then it was. (My driver side mirror is no longer vibrating at idle.)

Swapped the radio over to a sony CDX-GT700HD, got my FM radio back and I can finally shoot the damned cassette adapter I've been making do with. Sounds 10x better then stock with just the receiver alone, next on my list is repair the wiring to the left rear speaker (The wiring to that door has been a problem for 5+ years) then replace all the speakers, add 2 amps and a woofer.

Also I finally got around to declogging my evaporator drain, had a freaking pool by the time it was done draining. Finally no more sloshing while I'm driving, and my feet don't get wet. (It was so backed up it was coming out the vents.)

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post #2854 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 05:56 AM
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Your not giong to save much, if any, gas swapping from a 249 to a 242/231 as all the rotating mass is still there, unless you put hubs in that you can unlock.
And a good condition 249 is stronger than a stock 242/231, as well as a good all around and dd/mild trail use tc

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post #2855 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
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Your not giong to save much, if any, gas swapping from a 249 to a 242/231 as all the rotating mass is still there, unless you put hubs in that you can unlock.
And a good condition 249 is stronger than a stock 242/231, as well as a good all around and dd/mild trail use tc
This. You're going to get the same gas mileage with any of the transfer cases, unless you get manual locking hubs for 2 wheel drive. Even in 2 wheel drive, the front axle is turning which caused the front DS to spin. As stated here, same moving mass applies in 2 wheel drive as in 4 wheel drive. The 249 from 96-98 is also the strongest stock TC of the ZJ generation. I don't plan on modding my TC so for strength, the 249 is best for me.

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post #2856 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 09:47 AM
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This. You're going to get the same gas mileage with any of the transfer cases, unless you get manual locking hubs for 2 wheel drive. Even in 2 wheel drive, the front axle is turning which caused the front DS to spin. As stated here, same moving mass applies in 2 wheel drive as in 4 wheel drive. The 249 from 96-98 is also the strongest stock TC of the ZJ generation. I don't plan on modding my TC so for strength, the 249 is best for me.
Unless the 249s VC has failed. If that is the case, I can see a minor improvement. The swap in my 5.2 made a minor difference of 1 or so mpgs. Steering when not moving or moving slowly also improved greatly. With the 249, I could literally feel the bind when coasting. That went away with the 242 swap.

A properly functioning 249 will get the same mileage as a 242. It also won't wear your tires to hell, hence why I pulled my niner's front ds.

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post #2857 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 10:48 AM
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As of right now, my VC is functioning properly. I've thought about a 242 swap but it's more than just getting the TC from a donor. I'd have to do that, get the linkage, and make it properly display on my VIC. For me, it's worth the $500 that I'd pay for a new VC online, not at the dealership. Most TCs around JYs here seem to run about $200 or so. I'd spend an extra $300 for one that I know is going to work properly for the next 15 years rather than spend $200 and get one that could die in the next 6 months or work for 15 years. It's a gamble I don't want to take. Dropping a TC isn't something I particularly care to do on my day off. I'd rather do it once and do it right, regardless of cost.

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post #2858 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 10:58 AM
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As of right now, my VC is functioning properly. I've thought about a 242 swap but it's more than just getting the TC from a donor. I'd have to do that, get the linkage, and make it properly display on my VIC. For me, it's worth the $500 that I'd pay for a new VC online, not at the dealership. Most TCs around JYs here seem to run about $200 or so. I'd spend an extra $300 for one that I know is going to work properly for the next 15 years rather than spend $200 and get one that could die in the next 6 months or work for 15 years. It's a gamble I don't want to take. Dropping a TC isn't something I particularly care to do on my day off. I'd rather do it once and do it right, regardless of cost.
i would agree with that. i said i would be repairing my 249 myself, but i bought a 242 for $80, spend $100 on a complete bearing and seal kit and i know it will last for 15 years for basically half the cost of a vc alone.

its all about finding the deal, there was recently a working 231 here for 60$. i kick myself for not buying that one too.
i thought my VC was ok, not binding but pushing a little and wearing the outside of my fronts.
after i lifted i was eliminating vibes and pulled my front shaft to drive around the block. there was a noticeable difference in ease of steering.
pull the front shaft and your "good" vc probably isn't as good as you think.
i dont want to drop $900 on rubber just to have them trashed.

On topic: removing that 242s rollpin, is the roll pin threaded on the tcase end?

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post #2859 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 12:24 PM
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On topic: removing that 242s rollpin, is the roll pin threaded on the tcase end?
nope. Just mashed in there. A lot of times you can just force the forks around the sector without taking the shaft out. Removing and installing it is a PITA.

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post #2860 of 44343 Old 06-23-2011, 02:33 PM
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Just got my zj out of the shop. Had my D35 replaced with a rebuilt one
Cost $750 parts & labor. Need a new transfer case. My 249 was acting up only when pulling in parking spaces, now with new rear the front is acting up all the time. If I pull the front drive shaft on my '94 zj & use e-brake will I be ok until February?
Front shaft is out & due to my fried 249 my MPG average went from 18 to 21. I'll roll like this until I can get a new to me 231 or 242. I'm still playin' catch-up from when the "recession" hit.
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post #2861 of 44343 Old 06-24-2011, 01:10 AM
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Swapped all 4 speakers. Got a deal on 4 new Pioneer 17cm so swapped all 4. Finally no more rattling.
Also added coolant since my rad-cap-episode from 2 days ago, as back then I only added (demineralized) water, so I added 1 liter of ready-to-use antifreeze to it. Should be good for the summer. Going to the trip this afternoon after work, hoping all goes well...

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post #2862 of 44343 Old 06-24-2011, 09:02 AM
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Nothing major, just cleaned the inside a little bit... But I did wait around all day yesterday for U.P.S. to show up with the new wheels I ordered... When they dropped them off I was rather upset when I saw that they sent me the wrong bolt pattern
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post #2863 of 44343 Old 06-24-2011, 09:37 AM
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Nothing major, just cleaned the inside a little bit... But I did wait around all day yesterday for U.P.S. to show up with the new wheels I ordered... When they dropped them off I was rather upset when I saw that they sent me the wrong bolt pattern
Yeah I would be calling the company and going ham on they assess. Money is to tight for people to be getting it wrong. Now you gotta wait for a return label and all. What kinda wheels
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post #2864 of 44343 Old 06-24-2011, 09:52 AM
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Yeah I would be calling the company and going ham on they assess. Money is to tight for people to be getting it wrong. Now you gotta wait for a return label and all. What kinda wheels
I got a set of Mickey Thompson Classic II's.. I called them yesterday, they're sending another set out & the U.P.S. driver is taking the wrong ones with him to send back. It just sucks that they verified 5x4.5 three times on the phone & they sent out 5x4.75.
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post #2865 of 44343 Old 06-24-2011, 12:28 PM
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