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Unread 12-08-2013, 11:25 AM   #28261
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Rally cars mostly use transaxles, it's not the same. If the 249 was a Torsen setup it would be an awesome case but it's not, it's a VC and that's one of the worst and least reliable ways of having a variable split between front and rear. Torsen is the most reliable and usually the most predictable, then there are other systems that control it through the use of hydraulic clutches, those work very well but they don't last as long as a Torsen.
They use both. http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/4wd_turbo_cars.html

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Unread 12-08-2013, 11:33 AM   #28262
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Everything I read there was about transaxles. What part are you referring to.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 01:29 PM   #28263
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The part where it mentions the viscous coupler and the center differential? Below that it talks about the TorSen system.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 01:47 PM   #28264
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The part where it mentions the viscous coupler and the center differential? Below that it talks about the TorSen system.
I never said they didn't use VC's. I've never seen a transaxle that had a lever or button to change modes like 2wd and low range.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 02:08 PM   #28265
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I never said they didn't use VC's. I've never seen a transaxle that had a lever or button to change modes like 2wd and low range.
Because they don't have a lo range. That's the big difference between AWD and full time 4x4.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #28266
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Because they don't have a lo range. That's the big difference between AWD and full time 4x4.
So my point that rally cars aren't a good example is correct.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 02:55 PM   #28267
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So my point that rally cars aren't a good example is correct.
They are basically the same in full time hi. So it's irrelevant because I don't drive around in 4lo all over the place. It says right in that article that most rally cars use the Fergusen set up which use a viscous coupler.

So it's common for rally cars use an AWD system that utilizes a VC.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 03:09 PM   #28268
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They are basically the same in full time hi. So it's irrelevant because I don't drive around in 4lo all over the place. It says right in that article that most rally cars use the Fergusen set up which use a viscous coupler. So it's common for rally cars use an AWD system that utilizes a VC.
This is a, " what did you do to your ZJ" thread and a bunch of you guys can only say you ignored your ZJ to talk about other vehicles and there vc or ferguson transfer cases on the jeep forum. Who cares what rally cars use unless you have to drive/repair it?
On topic, cleaned her out, fueled up and drove her around town. I love my vc transfer case.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 04:17 PM   #28269
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did my good deed for the day had some heavy snow and a lady in a jeep liberty got stuck in a ditch so I saved her a couple 100 bucks and winched it out and. Got it back on the road. For once my jeep did something good lol
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Unread 12-08-2013, 04:33 PM   #28270
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did my good deed for the day had some heavy snow and a lady in a jeep liberty got stuck in a ditch so I saved her a couple 100 bucks and winched it out and. Got it back on the road. For once my jeep did something good lol
Feels good doesn't it? One bad winter people were getting stuck on the un-plowed exits off of I-80 back in NJ. Me and a friend drove down a long stretch of highway pulling people out with his suburban.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 04:39 PM   #28271
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Yeah feels good lol I don't mind helping people out of a tough spot times are tough and cash is short for alot of people so I saved em some cash.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 05:06 PM   #28272
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Today I cleaned out the huge mess in the way back.
A bunch of junk parts I hadn't put in my scrap steel pile, a bunch of wire, my huge tool box(100lbs at least), my recovery gear, all my cordless tools, a factory jack, a floor jack, my mud boots, and extra work clothes.

Now it sits about 1.5" to 2" higher in the back.....

I'll probably see about a 1 MPG increase....
NOT!!!
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Unread 12-08-2013, 05:09 PM   #28273
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drove it around in the slush/snow mix and decided i shouldve fixed those control arms in the fall like i planned on

she's a mite unpredictable changing lanes and feels like there are 2 sizes of tires on opposing corners like 215 front driver 235 front passenger same but reversed in the rear and ive been rotating them thats control arms right ? could be the sway bushings those are the only parts on the front yet to be replaced

also i think i should adjust the tv cable for a less drifter type throttle feel as she was really easy to kick out LOL but the 249 took great care of me and mine
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Unread 12-08-2013, 05:36 PM   #28274
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I put a hurt on mine ZJ today! in the ice/slush mix. I had to replace the alternator, belt tensioner, and belt yesterday in 20' degree weather for me, that's cold. So "SHE" deserves to be mistreated once in awhile.
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Unread 12-08-2013, 05:38 PM   #28275
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drove it around in the slush/snow mix and decided i shouldve fixed those control arms in the fall like i planned on

she's a mite unpredictable changing lanes and feels like there are 2 sizes of tires on opposing corners like 215 front driver 235 front driver same but reversed in the rear and ive been rotating them thats control arms right ? could be the sway bushings also those are the only parts on the front yet to be replaced

also i think i should adjust the tv cable for a less drifter type throttle feel as she was really easy to kick out LOL but the 249 took great care of me and mine
Well if it turns out you need em I have a full set of stock upper/lower fronts, brand new in the box. Also have the control arm bushings that are on the axle if you decide you want to deal with replacing those to .

Side note: IS THIS NEW?
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