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Unread 12-03-2013, 09:11 PM   #28066
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A year ago my friends and I were messing around and I ended up with a broken sunroof. "No big deal" I thought to myself, "I will just grab another from the junkyard, 150$, and we are set." Not the case. It turns out this was an aftermarket, dealer installed and the only place who could repair it said they wanted 1200$ to fix it and I had to have the car there for multiple days, while I was off work and needed to pay for a hotel and food. Not going to happen.

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There is the build. Take a look, I for one am proud of how it turned out.
Ugh, screw aftermarket sunroofs so much. They're so low-quality. Factory or no deal for me. At least you got it fixed. Mostly.

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Unread 12-04-2013, 02:35 AM   #28067
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Where did you mount the control box? I am just about done with a install of a 2 speed ( Taurus fan) Hayden E-fan control box/ harness. I mounted it on the radiator support so drilling a couple "cooling" holes behind it would be easy. It is in an area of relatively low heat. Have you had any other issues with it?

What is "special" about the Hayden relay?
I have a water tight control box I mounted my fan controller (low speed) and 70 amp relay (high speed) in. I mounted that next to the air box where the purge solenoid was. I moved the solenoid down and out of the way. It's somewhat of a hassle to change the relay because I need to remove the air box to take the cover off the control box. As far as that relay goes, it's a 40 amp relay with a special footprint to fit in their fan controller. It's not some off-the-shelf relay. Other than the relay burning up rather quickly (I've had it in there since maybe June), I haven't had any other issues with it. In fact, I like the 3647 fan controller. It's pretty simple and straight forward. I just need to vent my box now while someway maintaining it's water impenetrability.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 04:36 AM   #28068
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I have a water tight control box I mounted my fan controller (low speed) and 70 amp relay (high speed) in. I mounted that next to the air box where the purge solenoid was. I moved the solenoid down and out of the way. It's somewhat of a hassle to change the relay because I need to remove the air box to take the cover off the control box. As far as that relay goes, it's a 40 amp relay with a special footprint to fit in their fan controller. It's not some off-the-shelf relay. Other than the relay burning up rather quickly (I've had it in there since maybe June), I haven't had any other issues with it. In fact, I like the 3647 fan controller. It's pretty simple and straight forward. I just need to vent my box now while someway maintaining it's water impenetrability.
Is the relay itself not sealed? If it is, shouldn't dielectric/ bulb grease suffice? I use Loctite Brand Dielectric grease on everything except headlight/ fog light bulbs. Seems to work very well! The relay could be sealed with a coat of brush on wire sealer or plasti-dip. The Hayden control box itself I have is sealed.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 05:24 AM   #28069
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It didn't appear to be sealed. I also like my projects to look "professional" since I work as a service electrician/technician. That's the main reason I installed it in a small control box. I'll just have to figure out a way to vent the box or I'll swap out relays every 6 months. Summit Racing advertises the replacement relays on the page for the Hayden controllers for a reason: they know they burn up.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 05:35 AM   #28070
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I've been waiting for mine for so long...I'll be pissed if I don't get it
It was like 2 months before mine showed up as well
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Unread 12-04-2013, 05:46 AM   #28071
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Oh, and as I said I would yesterday, I filled up again this morning. The overhead read 18.6 and my calculations proved 17.5. All things considered, 17.5 is great for my rig. I'll take that. Today the overhead is reading 20.9. I'll make the assumption I got roughly 19 mpg this morning on my commute. I had the cruise set at 61 and didn't really hit any traffic because I left so early.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 07:00 AM   #28072
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Paint name is slate. They are awesome trucks i love mine. Do a 242 transfer case swap, so much more fun having the 2 wheel drive option lol. Chances are the 249 in it is shot anyway.
I know the paint colors called slate try telling my co workers that when its been cloudy all week and the jeep looks black in anything other then sunlight haha.

I've been thinking about the swap but doesn't it destroy the rear u joints faster and mine could be bad the front end is binding on turns, less when its warm and been driving.

Also its a hell of a difference from the 5.2

To stay on topic: Fixed the shaky k&n and found my low speed E-fan Died
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Unread 12-04-2013, 10:35 AM   #28073
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I know the paint colors called slate try telling my co workers that when its been cloudy all week and the jeep looks black in anything other then sunlight haha.

I've been thinking about the swap but doesn't it destroy the rear u joints faster and mine could be bad the front end is binding on turns, less when its warm and been driving.

Also its a hell of a difference from the 5.2

To stay on topic: Fixed the shaky k&n and found my low speed E-fan Died
Fan switch. http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/j...ull&category=U

I would check the replay too. Test your VC by driving it a bit then doing figure 8's in a parking lock with the steering turned all the way. If it binds and hops the VC is wearing out.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 10:39 AM   #28074
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Oh, and as I said I would yesterday, I filled up again this morning. The overhead read 18.6 and my calculations proved 17.5. All things considered, 17.5 is great for my rig. I'll take that. Today the overhead is reading 20.9. I'll make the assumption I got roughly 19 mpg this morning on my commute. I had the cruise set at 61 and didn't really hit any traffic because I left so early.
Wait, you're getting that mileage on a 5.2 with 31's?... What is this sorcery? That's about what I'd get on my 4.0 with stock tires and it was in great shape.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 12:54 PM   #28075
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Wait, you're getting that mileage on a 5.2 with 31's?... What is this sorcery? That's about what I'd get on my 4.0 with stock tires and it was in great shape.
163.9 miles of almost all highway driving. There was some traffic but I made sure to keep a decent distance in front of me and kept the speed at 61 the rest of the time. I was surprised. I'm not giving any credit to my 703s. I will, however, give credit to my e-fan as well as my 242. I know everyone says the 242 makes no difference, but I can't see freeing up whatever rotational drag the mechanical fan introduces giving me a couple extra mpgs on the highway.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 12:58 PM   #28076
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The e-fan definitely helps mpg a little, but probably not more than 1 mpg. 242 doesn't save anything, as all the front drivetrain bits are still spinning with the same drag, just no power applied from the t-case.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 02:11 PM   #28077
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We've come full circle, chaps.

The first picture I took of Cheyenne:


Lifted vs Stock:


Now:


It kinda hurts to see her like this.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 02:31 PM   #28078
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Oh, and as I said I would yesterday, I filled up again this morning. The overhead read 18.6 and my calculations proved 17.5. All things considered, 17.5 is great for my rig. I'll take that. Today the overhead is reading 20.9. I'll make the assumption I got roughly 19 mpg this morning on my commute. I had the cruise set at 61 and didn't really hit any traffic because I left so early.
Must be nice to get good fuel mileage. Im lucky to get 12 on a good day. But im not going to b**ch anymore after getting in a rv this morning at work and seeing his average is 6 mpg. Granted its a 30 ft 8.1 liter chevy big block pulling it around.

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Unread 12-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #28079
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Gas RVs are a bit dumb in my opinion. A diesel would provide better torque and fuel economy.
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Unread 12-04-2013, 03:30 PM   #28080
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The e-fan definitely helps mpg a little, but probably not more than 1 mpg. 242 doesn't save anything, as all the front drivetrain bits are still spinning with the same drag, just no power applied from the t-case.
I'm a pretty firm believer in it not making a difference myself, I jus don't know what else to attribute the gain to.
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