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Unread 11-10-2013, 12:03 AM   #27091
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Just remember that most automotive manufacturers are starting to use RTV only and no gaskets.
Starting to? You mean, have been doing for the past 25 years or so?

Oil Pan Gaskets are history. They have been for some considerable amount of time. I have a 25 year old Nissan with RTV for its OPG, as recommended in the Factory Service Manual. Honestly, it makes more sense that way. The more fasteners, the tougher it is to line up and seal a gasket. Better to use a curing silicone as a self-forming gasket. And RTV holds up a lot better than paper or cork gaskets, and is a lot cheaper and easier to work with than rubber gaskets. It's also not susceptible to overtightening like preformed gaskets.

Say what you want about the auto industry, but comparing my 45hp/l oil-pissing fuel-guzzling 4-liter OHV I6 to my grandma's 110hp/l gas-sipping DOHC VVT Direct-injection turbo-4, I'm gonna take the performance of the 1.6 and generally assume that it'll be reliable enough to use in 15 years. Sure the 4.0 itself will never break, but everything attached to it will. Even if it was carbed instead of EFI, the carburetor would break eventually. Might as well have something high-performance while I'm in there. Same goes for transmissions. Sure, a 3-speed hydraulic lasts a long time, but it's rough and noisy and inefficient. That ZF 8-speed has a pretty good reputation. I'll jump on that bandwagon, after driving a ZF-equipped WK2. It is AWESOME being in 4th gear at 20 in a school zone with the RPMs at idle, sipping no gas at all in a 5000lb SUV. It's super cool to get up to 60 and watch the revs fall as you hit 8th gear and cruise with no RPM at all. Sure there's no dipstick. Manual transmissions don't have 'em either. I never heard anyone complain that an AX-15 was difficult to keep lubricated.

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Unread 11-10-2013, 03:51 AM   #27092
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Everything has its good and bad things about them. Its just that if i have something under my hood, i want to be able to work on it. My wifes 03 beetle has a sealed auto trans in it but you can still buy a dipstick from the dealer and it has a plug thats buried and a pita to get to to change the $16 a quart fluid in and its acting up already and its only 10 years old. I will take something older and something that i can work on any day of the week

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Unread 11-10-2013, 06:42 AM   #27093
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I'm with the old! Simple Is sometimes better. Maybe I'm just a hillbilly. Even Jay Leno likes the thought of the old and their ease of serviceability!
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:28 AM   #27094
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I'm just glad you are still allowed to choose.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:53 AM   #27095
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I don't want to deal with stuff like this.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 07:55 AM   #27096
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Brought another Jeep ZJ, 97' Ovris edition all for $5.00 US dollars, I starting to think I have a serious problem!
Doesn't seem like a problem to me! I buy em when I see em. If I were only rich!......They'd be life size!!

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Unread 11-10-2013, 09:27 AM   #27097
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Washed the niner and put it away for the winter. She never sees bad weather.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 09:48 AM   #27098
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That ZF 8-speed has a pretty good reputation.
Eh, they don't have the best reputation in the repair world. They come equipped with plastic oil pans that have the filter incorporated into them. Sure it's really easy to service due this but they are very prone to leaking as plastic does not expand and contract at the same rate as the aluminum transmission. Using plastic for oil pans and valve covers is the one thing the auto industry is doing very very wrong. Unfortunately this transmission is being used by everyone today, BMW, Mercedes, Jeep, Land Rover (never ever ever get a land rover...)

Although as far as you were saying with new engines like a turbo 4 cylinder with more power then the 4.0, ya.. that's what they have been doing right haha.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 09:52 AM   #27099
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Along with plastic intake manifolds, plastic pulleys, plastic is not the answer.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 10:10 AM   #27100
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I don't want to deal with stuff like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221313800314...S:3160&vxp=mtr
Oh man I'm with you on that hahaha. Even BMW realized how bad an idea it was. I just worked on a 2012 750li and it has a good ol normal alternator. It's just in front of the Twin Turbo's on the V8.

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Along with plastic intake manifolds, plastic pulleys, plastic is not the answer.
Plastic has it's long term uses. I certainly never want to go back to steel gas tanks.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 10:15 AM   #27101
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Slight detour on the way to the store!

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Unread 11-10-2013, 10:18 AM   #27102
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Saw this Jeepster along the way too!

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Unread 11-10-2013, 11:37 AM   #27103
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Unexpectedly went mildly offroading while taking a shortcut in the city.. how was I to know that empty lot had such massive holes..I may or may not have hit the headliner with my head. Sure glad My jeep was lifted otherwise I dont think I would have made it. Haha
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Unread 11-10-2013, 11:54 AM   #27104
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Unexpectedly went mildly offroading while taking a shortcut in the city.. how was I to know that empty lot had such massive holes..I may or may not have hit the headliner with my head. Sure glad My jeep was lifted otherwise I dont think I would have made it. Haha
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Unread 11-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #27105
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