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Unread 11-09-2013, 08:08 PM   #27076
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The reason tranny pan gaskets leak is people generally over tighten them and crush them. I use the gaskets every time i service the tranny and have yet to have one leak. Snug each bolt go around a few times and your good to go. No need to go nuts tightening them. Same goes for valve covers and oil pans, people make the same mistake with them all.
Just remember that most automotive manufacturers are starting to use RTV only and no gaskets.

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Unread 11-09-2013, 08:28 PM   #27077
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Rtv Is easier to deal with then gaskets especially if you are in tight places

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Unread 11-09-2013, 08:32 PM   #27078
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Replaced passenger rear window switch, now that window rolls down. Washed it, and greased it. Thats it.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 09:24 PM   #27079
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Readjusted my headlights for the first time since the new housings. Haven't driven in the dark since until now.....put the lights on and the poor girl was cross-eyed and I couldn't see crap lol. Thankfully I carry a tool box with torx bits all the time.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 09:59 PM   #27080
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Decided that even though my welder is out of gas I could get my lights and tow hooks hooked up.





And yes, the Jeep is going to get a new paint job sooner or later. As well as a 96+ header panel and 5.9 grill
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:21 PM   #27081
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Just remember that most automotive manufacturers are starting to use RTV only and no gaskets.
Yea and most new cars are being made cheaper and cheaper. What new car manufactuers are doing is the last thing id use as a guideline. Another thing to keep in mind is most new transmissions are not servicable.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:26 PM   #27082
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Yea and most new cars are being made cheaper and cheaper. What new car manufactuers are doing is the last thing id use as a guideline. Another thing to keep in mind is most new transmissions are not servicable.
They are serviceable.... just because the manufacturer tries to claim its a "lifetime fluid" doesn't mean it is not serviceable. I do them all the time. New vehicles leak a hell of a lot less fluids even at 200k+ miles then cars from the 90's. There are a LOT of things that newer cars are doing that is much better then the older tech. What are your facts to back up why newer cars are all cheaper quality?
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:35 PM   #27083
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I dont buy into any lifetime fluid, what i mean is a lot of newer cars including Jeeps do not have dipsticks for the transmissions. Nothing is as easy to work on as it was years ago. Lets see how many of todays Jeeps are still on the road 15 years from now. Lets see how many of todays vehicles in general are still on the road 15 years from now. Nothing is made like it used to be, materials are cheaper, IMO way to much plastic is being used on todays vehicles and the plastics are cheap. They dont hold up like metal parts did. Yes some things have been improved and some things have not.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:41 PM   #27084
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Another thing to keep in mind is people do A LOT more driving today than they did 15 years ago. There are 5 year old vehicles with 200K miles on them. The gaskets and seals dont fail due to mileage, they fail due to time. Todays vehicles and gaskets have not been around long enough to say they survived the test of time. In 15 years we'll see how well the gaskets/seals and plastics of today are really holding up. I dont have much faith in them.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:48 PM   #27085
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Another thing to keep in mind is people do A LOT more driving today than they did 15 years ago. There are 5 year old vehicles with 200K miles on them. The gaskets and seals dont fail due to mileage, they fail due to time. Todays vehicles and gaskets have not been around long enough to say they survived the test of time. In 15 years we'll see how well the gaskets/seals and plastics of today are really holding up. I dont have much faith in them.
Chevy's new Ecotec engines are an easy 300-400k mile engine with just general maintenance. They are practically bullet proof. Toyota and Honda's engines are still gonna last forever, BMW and Audi are still build engines that last forever (although as always they do require more maintenance) I work on these cars every day and have lots of first hand experience. The build quality is better then ever before as tolerances are tighter and tighter by the year. This is also why they use RTV instead of gaskets. Since the tolerances are so tight they don't need a thick gasket to fill in all the gaps, they almost don't even need gaskets.

On the other hand, Jeeps with the Pentastar V6 are total junk. We've already replaced several of these.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:54 PM   #27086
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The magnum 318 and the AMC 4.0 are really bulletproof engines. Its just the transmissions and the newer dodge engines that suck.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:56 PM   #27087
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The magnum 318 and the AMC 4.0 are really bulletproof engines. Its just the transmissions and the newer dodge engines that suck.
Honestly even the 42RE in my Jeep isn't a bad transmission. I think they get a bad rep from abuse with no servicing. Mine as far as I know is still original. It shows no signs of ever being rebuilt but still doing amazing at 220k miles. If it was rebuilt it was before the PO got it around 100k miles
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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:58 PM   #27088
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Most of the newer chrysler engines are made my mercedes now anyway and they are about as useful as a babies wet diaper. When they started the 4.7 and the 5.7 is when everything went to hell in a handbasket

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Unread 11-09-2013, 11:00 PM   #27089
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Most of the newer chrysler engines are made my mercedes now anyway and they are about as useful as a babies wet diaper. When they started the 4.7 and the 5.7 is when everything went to hell in a handbasket

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And the funny thing is I don't think Mercedes uses the engines that Chrysler does because they knew it wasn't a good engine.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 12:12 AM   #27090
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The point being that the proper RTV is fine to use on the transmission pan.

On a side note my friend has a Commander on 33's and that is indeed a Mercedes transmission 5G-TRONIC. He had to source a dipstick for it. It's got great ratings. It's the same one in the S65 AMG V-12 but he can't do anything too it maintenance wise, then again you shouldn't have to. He drives it all over off road in Southern Nevada mapping and repelling in old mines. So far so good. I wouldn't want something I can't work on though. It's gonna cost an arm and leg if something goes wrong.
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