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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:35 PM   #26581
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My 5.9 plays bass only out of the rear doors, not full range like the regular ZJ The sound bar in the back makes up for it. Front doors are full range woofers with tweters in the dash, rear doors are low range drivers, sound bar is a 5.25" component system. It was a 5.9 only option, no other ZJ came with this option.
Correct. I'm pretty sure there's no crossover in the amp though, I think the range of the rear speakers is just limited by their natural rolloff on the high end.

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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:37 PM   #26582
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Its not that simple. The lower the impedance the more power the amp produces BUT the dirtier the power gets. 200 watts at 2 ohms is not as clean as 200 watts at 8 ohms. Reason being the lower the impedance the close you are to a dead short. Lower impedance produces more power but also more heat and more distortion.
For a given amp, yes. However, if an amp is only 8 ohm stable, it isn't necessarily cleaner at 8 ohms than a 2 ohm stable amp running at 2 ohms.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:37 PM   #26583
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The crossover is in the amp. I wires up a 3 way 6.5" speaker, got nothing but low range, very low midbass.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:38 PM   #26584
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The crossover is in the amp. I wires up a 3 way 6.5" speaker, got nothing but low range, very low midbass.
Hmm... Interesting. Then again, bottoms of the rear doors aren't the best place to put tweeters anyway, so it's probably not an issue in most cases.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:39 PM   #26585
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It's actually very difficult to get good bass out of ZJ doors. Just the acoustics of the doors. There are none lol.
i tried my best to seal them off but there are just so many leaks

for pyles they sound quite nice 82.db sensitivity 4 ohms and all
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:40 PM   #26586
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For a given amp, yes. However, if an amp is only 8 ohm stable, it isn't necessarily cleaner at 8 ohms than a 2 ohm stable amp running at 2 ohms.
Makes no difference where it's stable. Being stable at 2 ohms doesnt make it clean at 2 ohms. All that means is the amp can sweat off heat fast enough with a 2 ohm load not to overheat and shut down. There are high end competition amps out there rated down to 1/4 ohm and produce crazy power. Its raw dirty as hell competition bass kind of power, thats all they are good for.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:41 PM   #26587
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i tried my best to seal them off but there are just so many leaks

for pyles they sound quite nice 82.db sensitivity 4 ohms and all
82.4 is terrible. The higher that number the better and that goes for any speaker. PYLE is named perfectly............ PYLE.............
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:42 PM   #26588
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Its not that simple. The lower the impedance the more power the amp produces BUT the dirtier the power gets. 200 watts at 2 ohms is not as clean as 200 watts at 8 ohms. Reason being the lower the impedance the close you are to a dead short. Lower impedance produces more power but also more heat and more distortion.
i know ive been into audio for 18 years now and learned a thing or two about a thing or two
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:45 PM   #26589
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82.4 is terrible. The higher that number the better and that goes for any speaker. PYLE is named perfectly............ PYLE.............
i thought so when i saw that number but my opinion changed when i heard them

one of those '' dont knock it till youve tried it '' things
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:46 PM   #26590
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Super loud requires a lot of power and a high quality speaker. Loud doesnt always equate to good sound though. If you want a system built for sound quality you need atleast 5 amps, a processor, a high end preamp only stereo, invest upwards of 5 grand. A properly built system has no less than 3 amps. One for tweeters, one for mids, one for subwoofers. Doing it right costs big money.
Ohh I was just wondering if you knew what brand it was one midrange speaker is 400-600$ their very crisp and carry their sound very far and still sound good. I know how to build a loud system give me some AQ amps (forgot model) or some dd m4as run em strapped those are 7500watts at 14v put 8 dd supercharged 3515s in a tunnel ton of xs power 14v batts and 2 new h/o alts and then fiberglass the doors throw some good mids in blah blah. Or if you want to be a *** get a old school civic hatch back with a DC 12inch lvl 5 in a octaport on 5k and get 160dbs at comps. Fuvk the hatchbacks
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:47 PM   #26591
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You have been in the business for 18 years yet used some of the biggest POS cheapest junk speakers on the market in your own vehicle? You then post up specs of 82.4 DB sensitivity as if thats something to be proud of? Sorry but that doesnt give me much faith in the thing or two you may or may not have pick up on.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:47 PM   #26592
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82.4 is terrible. The higher that number the better and that goes for any speaker. PYLE is named perfectly............ PYLE.............
There competition line is pretty badass
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:49 PM   #26593
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You ahve been in the business for 18 years yet used some of the piggest POS cheapest junk speakers on the market in your own vehicle? You then post up specs of 82.4 DB sensitivity as if thats something to be proud of? Sorry but that doesnt give me much faith in the thing or two you may or may not have pick up on.
not in the business and it was a value based decision at $15 per

i knew exactly what i was getting im just happy it turned out well
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:50 PM   #26594
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You have been in the business for 18 years yet used some of the biggest POS cheapest junk speakers on the market in your own vehicle? You then post up specs of 82.4 DB sensitivity as if thats something to be proud of? Sorry but that doesnt give me much faith in the thing or two you may or may not have pick up on.
He didn't say he's been in the business he said he's been a enthusiast for 18 years
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Unread 10-26-2013, 09:51 PM   #26595
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I didn't know this was the zj thread !
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