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Unread 10-09-2013, 12:38 AM   #26101
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Oh yeah, installed new rear brakes too. Pads were almost down to metal & the discs were already turned so for $100 for new discs & Wagner pads, it was cheap insurance.


New Rear Disc & Pads


Oh and the WJ fan finally arrived from Jersey. Clean and big. Hope it works in my ZJ's existing shroud!

WJ Fan arrived

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Unread 10-09-2013, 08:47 PM   #26102
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Swapped the Caravan 136 amp alternator in today.
Didn't seem to help under a full load all that much at idle, but did slightly improve the gauge reading between 1500 & 3000rpm. Not great, but better.
Didn't check at higher rpm, because I don't run her above 4000rpm all that often....

Anyway, I can't complain, it was a free alternator!
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Unread 10-09-2013, 10:51 PM   #26103
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[QUOTE="DRUMatthias;16676089"]Oh yeah, installed new rear brakes too. Pads were almost down to metal & the discs we & Pad/"/QUOTE]

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Unread 10-09-2013, 11:58 PM   #26104
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Punched it as hard as I could because I was thoroughly pissed off at something else at the time and the ZJ was within reach....
Perfect fist print dent in the hood....
Not gonna be able to blame that one on wheelin'....
Definitely obvious what kind of dent it is....

Surprisingly, my hand is fine...

Now she's gonna pay me back for punching her, and SOMETHING will break... You just watch...

Pics pal. Pics. We need pics!
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Unread 10-10-2013, 08:49 AM   #26105
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that looks like a hot air intake that metal pipe is gonna get hot

for better power and less r.i.c.e. factor you should get a durango air hat and some kind of tube pvc or whatever then go back to the stock air filter and modify the stock air box

also big alternators are cheap at the boneyard
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Unread 10-10-2013, 11:27 AM   #26106
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Got my driveshaft shortened, finally have 4wd option again.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 02:08 PM   #26107
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Oh yeah, installed new rear brakes too. Pads were almost down to metal ..."
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Thanks! Original Air Zoom Humaras (Black/Carotene/Blue Spark colorway) I've had since '97. Only a year newer than my ZJ. I have nearly 200 pairs & this is hands down THEE most durable pair of Nikes I've ever owned. I'll likely never part with em & honestly, that pic was taken more for the shoes to post on SC than it was for the brake swap
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Unread 10-10-2013, 02:14 PM   #26108
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that looks like a hot air intake that metal pipe is gonna get hot

for better power and less r.i.c.e. factor you should get a durango air hat and some kind of tube pvc or whatever then go back to the stock air filter and modify the stock air box

also big alternators are cheap at the boneyard
I see your words & I don't disagree with it being hotter than plastic. But it's a ****load cheaper & if I was to pick up a 2-piece hat & pipe & fab it together, by the time I bought all that, I might as well just drop $260+ on a FIPK II, which is what this avoids.
Also, the Durango Hats all seem to sit WAY too high & would require some sort of hood mod, which isn't worth it to me.

Almost every non-K&N aftermarket intake uses metal tubes, so they can't be that bad. This was definitely pre-fab'd for a 5.2L ZJ per the lenght, bends & bracket welded on. I just don't have the air damn for it, which does kinda suck but that, too is made of metal, even on the K&N setups, I believe.

I REALLY wish I could just direct-order the pipe & air damn only from K&N & skip the filter...

I'm definitely not gonna hack up my stock box that I could sell with the K&N OEM style filter as is, so that's not an option for me.

If the ZJ hadn't just emptied every pocket, I'd be all for returning this & droppin some coin on the K&N but as it is, it'll get me by for a while. I'm tempted to bedliner spray the tube, as it may help keep it cooler... contemplating that...

Good call on JY alt. I'm a bit worried buying a used alt & would prefer new but if it's gonna work & not cost much, it may be the way to go!
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Unread 10-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #26109
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I see your words & I don't disagree with it being hotter than plastic. But it's a ****load cheaper & if I was to pick up a 2-piece hat & pipe & fab it together, by the time I bought all that, I might as well just drop $260+ on a FIPK II, which is what this avoids.

Almost every non-K&N aftermarket intake uses metal tubes, so they can't be that bad. This was definitely pre-fab'd for a 5.2L ZJ per the lenght, bends & bracket welded on. I just don't have the air damn for it, which does kinda suck but that, too is made of metal, even on the K&N setups, I believe.

I'm definitely not gonna hack up my stock box that I could sell with the K&N OEM style filter as is, so that's not an option for me.

If the ZJ hadn't just emptied every pocket, I'd be all for returning this & droppin some coin on the K&N but as it is, it'll get me by for a while. I'm tempted to bedliner spray the tube, as it may help keep it cooler... contemplating that...

Good call on JY alt. I'm a bit worried buying a used alt & would prefer new but if it's gonna work & not cost much, it may be the way to go!
total cost 17$ and one girlfriends chapstick top

it flows thru the stock filter element

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Unread 10-10-2013, 02:24 PM   #26110
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I see your words & I don't disagree with it being hotter than plastic. But it's a ****load cheaper & if I was to pick up a 2-piece hat & pipe & fab it together, by the time I bought all that, I might as well just drop $260+ on a FIPK II, which is what this avoids.

Almost every non-K&N aftermarket intake uses metal tubes, so they can't be that bad. This was definitely pre-fab'd for a 5.2L ZJ per the lenght, bends & bracket welded on. I just don't have the air damn for it, which does kinda suck but that, too is made of metal, even on the K&N setups, I believe.

I'm definitely not gonna hack up my stock box that I could sell with the K&N OEM style filter as is, so that's not an option for me.

If the ZJ hadn't just emptied every pocket, I'd be all for returning this & droppin some coin on the K&N but as it is, it'll get me by for a while. I'm tempted to bedliner spray the tube, as it may help keep it cooler... contemplating that...

Good call on JY alt. I'm a bit worried buying a used alt & would prefer new but if it's gonna work & not cost much, it may be the way to go!
CAI's are good for bling and that's about it
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Unread 10-10-2013, 03:04 PM   #26111
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total cost 17$ and one girlfriends chapstick top

it flows thru the stock filter element

Accordion tube! That works Cheap too! Not spotting the chapstick top tho... What hat is that? Aftermarket, looks like but maybe not?

As for metal vs. plastic, it's a complete hoax tho. There is absolutely no scientific evidence to support one over the other as neither OVER heat when in use. ALL parts under a hood get hot, it's over heating that is the only concern.

Here's some good reading I found
Hot Running Arguments for Plastic and Metal Intake Tubes
There is not a lot of diversity in either side of the plastic intake tube versus the metal intake tube debate. Supporters of both camps accuse the other of poorer performance and durability as well as running hot. Extensive reading reveals that the difference between the results achieved by these two materials is virtually negligible.

Plastic/Metal Cold Air Intake Tubes Perform Better
There is absolutely no solid evidence that plastic or metal intake tubes are responsible for any degree of better performance when installed in any vehicle. As with virtually every product on the market that invites comparison against another, advocates for plastic intake tubes just as easily found as metal intake tube enthusiasts are. Despite all personal opinions and testimonial accounts, there is no hard, scientific evidence that either material improves or inhibits vehicle performance.

Plastic/Metal Cold Air Intake Tubes Run Hotter
It is easy to find this argument cited not only on public automotives forums across the Internet, but it is actually cited as the common argument in articles and resources addressing the fact that neither plastic nor metal have a tendency to overheat during use.

Plastic/Metal Cold Air Intake Tubes are More Attractive
Aesthetics is less of a science and more of a philosophy. There are many vehicle owners and drivers who prefer the sleek and even custom designs of metal intake tubes for their ranks on one side of the argument. Those who prefer the less showy or customized look will often opt for plastic intake tubes. Matters of taste are best left entirely to the discretion of the consumer.

Conclusion
Buyers who have found themselves belaboring their research, trying to determine finally and ultimately whether metal or plastic cold air intake tubes are superior, may congratulate themselves on their thoroughness and attention to detail. The fruits of that quest for knowledge go in favor of neither side, because automotive specialists and manufacturers agree that neither material outperforms the other.
Despite inexplicable rumors, neither plastic nor metal runs hotter or suffers from poorer durability, safety, or reliability. The greater difference typically lies between the stock intake system and the performance intake system.
In Short: the difference in Tube Materials doesn't mean dick in practical application of performance enhancement.

@Polka - them being just bling is also a hoax. Regardless of brand CAIs are long since easily proven to increase performance & in some cases (or over certain portions if not all of the powerband) horsepower. If it was just bling & aesthetics, I could give 2 ****s about ever owning one. Stock AIs are restrictive & designed to be Quiet & out of site, not with performance in mind. Nice thing is, engines work either way. I just prefer one with an aftermarket intake.
It's one of a chain of mods as we all know, that can be upgraded to actually reduce excess back pressure & air flow, along with headers, mandrel bent exhaust, high flow cat, muffler, etc. Given that I plan on swapping out most of the rest of that "chain link" this CAI is simply leading the way in the series of events to occur.

That said, if I can land an air hat from the JY (when I go to scout out a Higher amp alt ) that fits my 3" tube AND doesn't require hood mod, I may pick one up!
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Unread 10-10-2013, 03:09 PM   #26112
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There is nothing wrong with a bit of rice :P





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Unread 10-10-2013, 03:18 PM   #26113
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Accordion tube! That works Cheap too! Not spotting the chapstick top tho... What hat is that? Aftermarket, looks like but maybe not?


@Polka - them being just bling is also a hoax. Regardless of brand CAIs are long since easily proven to increase performance & horsepower. If it was just bling & aesthetics, I could give 2 ****s about ever owning one. Stock AIs are restrictive & designed to be Quiet & out of site, not with performance in mind. Nice thing is, engines work either way. I just prefer one with an aftermarket intake.

That said, if I can land an air hat from the JY (when I go to scout out a Higher amp alt ) that fits my 3" tube AND doesn't require hood mod, I may pick one up!
its a durango/dakota air hat and requiered a lot of hood trim

no big deal though with a grinder it took 10 minutes

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Unread 10-10-2013, 03:20 PM   #26114
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cut to the chase its all about the tube
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Unread 10-10-2013, 05:26 PM   #26115
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Pics pal. Pics. We need pics!
Here you go!


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