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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #23551
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You want adjustable.

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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #23552
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I was talking about the DC controller for it. I already bought a brand new fan for $90 something rather than getting a JY fan.
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the Volvo relay and BMW thermoswitch will power your brand new fan. unless I am missing something ...which... wouldn't surprise me
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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:41 AM   #23553
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Technically it was today... 1230 a.m. finished my new headliner then started on mocking up an air "inlet" to work with my home made CAI that I am piecing together. I am putting it where the old plastic one was and should improve on it.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:45 AM   #23554
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You want adjustable.
Can I ask why? Just curious... personally the fixed ones seem like they would be beefier to me so I was kinda leaning towards those but if the adjustables are the way to go ill definitely look more into those.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:46 AM   #23555
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You want adjustable.
This, more than likely. I got away with just adjustable uppers in the rear. the rest of mine are fixed and my pinion angles are good and I have no vibes. I did before I swapped the rears for adjustables though.

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RIGHT.
the Volvo relay and BMW thermoswitch will power your brand new fan. unless I am missing something ...which... wouldn't surprise me
Are you saying I can get away with just the Volvo relay and the BMW switch along with my fan? I gathered from your posts that I'd also need that DC controller. The DC controller is $100 I don't want to spend.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:47 AM   #23556
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Can I ask why? Just curious... personally the fixed ones seem like they would be beefier to me so I was kinda leaning towards those but if the adjustables are the way to go ill definitely look more into those.
so you can adjust them......adjustable arms will allow you to move the axle forward or back in the wheel well a well as set up your pinion angles to where you want/need them
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Unread 06-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #23557
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Unread 06-18-2013, 11:11 AM   #23558
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so you can adjust them......adjustable arms will allow you to move the axle forward or back in the wheel well a well as set up your pinion angles to where you want/need them
I could see the advantage of being able to get a little more dialed in with pinion angles and what not but won't the longer fixed ones get you where you want/need to be too though? I would have to look again but I believe IRO says the fixed ones are good up to 6 inches of lift. The only lift I've done in the past was on an 82 toyota pickup so all I really had to do was new leaf springs, longer shocks, extend the brake lines and front ds and she was ready for wheelin so all this extra stuff I gotta do with the zj is completely new to me and I'm still learning.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 11:31 AM   #23559
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I could see the advantage of being able to get a little more dialed in with pinion angles and what not but won't the longer fixed ones get you where you want/need to be too though? I would have to look again but I believe IRO says the fixed ones are good up to 6 inches of lift. The only lift I've done in the past was on an 82 toyota pickup so all I really had to do was new leaf springs, longer shocks, extend the brake lines and front ds and she was ready for wheelin so all this extra stuff I gotta do with the zj is completely new to me and I'm still learning.
yes, fixed arms will work. but like I said your going to want to be able to make adjustments. with fixed arms you are stuck with what you get. No way to adjsut your angles or axle position. The last thing you really want is to drop money on fixed arms just to find out it gave you a crap pinion angle. now youll be stuck with vibes and no way to adjust it........JMO
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Unread 06-18-2013, 11:41 AM   #23560
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yes, fixed arms will work. but like I said your going to want to be able to make adjustments. with fixed arms you are stuck with what you get. No way to adjsut your angles or axle position. The last thing you really want is to drop money on fixed arms just to find out it gave you a crap pinion angle. now youll be stuck with vibes and no way to adjust it........JMO
Makes sense. I guess if they made the fixed arms specifically for the 4.5 inch lift that could potentially be the way to go, but the adjustables do make more sense since the fixed are made for a range of lifts. Thanks for the info, and sorry if this was a stupid question I just like to know as much info about the stuff I'm dropping my hard earned loot on lol.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 11:42 AM   #23561
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This, more than likely. I got away with just adjustable uppers in the rear. the rest of mine are fixed and my pinion angles are good and I have no vibes. I did before I swapped the rears for adjustables though.



Are you saying I can get away with just the Volvo relay and the BMW switch along with my fan? I gathered from your posts that I'd also need that DC controller. The DC controller is $100 I don't want to spend.
will need a 36mm water temp adapter to splice into your upper radiator hose and fasten the BMW Thermoswitch. The Thermoswitch sends a signal to the Volvo relay (low @ 195 degrees, high @ 205 degrees) and the volvo relay sends power to the fan according to the thermoswitch signal. The Volvo relay has 5 wires: Power, High speed signal, low speed signal, high speed power output, low speed power output. real simple budget system.
I ran a 40a inline fuse holder from the positive battery to a 40a relay prior to the volvo relay so the fan will only run while the key is turned on.
Let me know if you have any questions. besides the taurus fan I spent:
$8-10 for the volvo relay & bmw thermoswitch harness/pigtail
$22 for the brand new bmw thermoswitch
$10 for the water temp adapter from ebay (36mm for the 5.2 v8)
$5 for a 40a 5 pin relay
$3 for a 40a inline fuse holder.
All automatic in a compact setup.
180 tstat, low kicks on @ 195, high @ 205.
Sounds a lot more complicated than it actually is. But check out the attached threads I posted on my thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/t...relay-1526807/
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Unread 06-18-2013, 12:06 PM   #23562
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Man... looks like I have some research to do before I go ahead and get my fan installed. I ordered the relays/solenoids needed wire it up too. What year/model Volvo and BMW are these from?
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Unread 06-18-2013, 12:11 PM   #23563
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Man... looks like I have some research to do before I go ahead and get my fan installed. I ordered the relays/solenoids needed wire it up too. What year/model Volvo and BMW are these from?
Indeed!
it really is a solid setup and didn't cost an arm & leg. read through the threads I posted in my thread.
they have model #'s and all the vital info. Walking through the junkyard... if the volvo has an electric fan, it has the relay. look behind the passenger side headlight. mostly the 740's and 740 wagons too. Any bmw thermoswitch pigtail/plug harness will work. The thermoswitch part # is listed on the threads as well

Do your research and feel free to ask any questions along the way
good luck man
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Unread 06-18-2013, 12:57 PM   #23564
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Indeed!
it really is a solid setup and didn't cost an arm & leg. read through the threads I posted in my thread.
they have model #'s and all the vital info. Walking through the junkyard... if the volvo has an electric fan, it has the relay. look behind the passenger side headlight. mostly the 740's and 740 wagons too. Any bmw thermoswitch pigtail/plug harness will work. The thermoswitch part # is listed on the threads as well

Do your research and feel free to ask any questions along the way
good luck man
Thanks!
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Unread 06-18-2013, 01:42 PM   #23565
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