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Unread 01-25-2014, 12:04 AM   #16
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That would be pretty sweet, Oldfrog! If I may ask, do you get any royalties associated with your land or did you get unlucky with the good 'ol lawyered up exclusion lists?
Everyone with any sense got a signing bonus between $500 and $25,000 an acre plus a 25% royalty for a 3 years lease when it first came into play. ( nat gas prices were higher then.) That includes people in subdivisions, condos, too. Then the bottom dropped out on gas prices and the leases were renewed for much less in many cases. Lots of new millionaires were instantly created in the rural areas. I know a poor farmer who was holding on my the skin of his teeth when it all hit. Now his family is living the good life and I couldnt be happier for him.

As for the other poster, who spoke about CNG, that's not what the Sasol company does, as I understand it. They have a process which actually converts it to a usable, liquid fuel....but maybe I'm mistaken. Not LNG, per se...which has to be super cooled....but something you can pour out of a can. I know about the solvents....just not 100% certain about the fuel. All I really DO know is that they are building a 21 billion dollar plant in Lake Charles, LA....( and the real estate values which have skyrocketed as a result)

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Unread 01-25-2014, 01:35 AM   #17
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One thing to note is that your gallon is 4.55L, whereas our gallon is only 3.785L. So your 36mpg is 30mpg of ours.

Still pretty damned good.
yeah i was going to mention that but i was just going to show the real economic benefits of running LPG and thats without all the good it does to your engine and the environment (if your worried about that).
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Unread 01-25-2014, 03:38 AM   #18
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It is fantastic for us in the UK - I have a petrol station in my home town, one halfway to work, and one about 400yds from work - so I never need petrol anymore! And with a gallon of petrol being close to ten dollars now, and gas being less than half that - it is brilliant! I've yet to finish a full tank of LPG since I fitted the new front end gas kit (the one mine came with was badly bodged in, household lamp cord and bare wires everywhere) - but when I do run out, it'll automatically switch to petrol, beep at me to tell me it's done so, and I can work out the equivalent MPG as I reset the odometer to zero when I filled it up.
Exdecuk - does your conversion have the "emergency" feature of being able to start on gas? Basically you hold down the changeover button before you even start the engine, it takes a few cranks, then fires up - I normally do this all the time to do without petrol altogether. Seems not a lot of people know about it, including my LPG installer mate in Wales - but he tried it the other night at 0 degrees, and it worked - on a Prins system. Mine is AEB/King. Try starting it with the change button held in, then hold it at about 2000rpm for about 30 seconds - can be a bit hesitant at first, but I have mine down to a fine art! Still keep a full tank of petrol and a 25 litre jerry can of petrol in the boot, mind!
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Unread 01-25-2014, 03:40 AM   #19
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yeah i was going to mention that but i was just going to show the real economic benefits of running LPG and thats without all the good it does to your engine and the environment (if your worried about that).
And your oil comes out the same colour it went in... satisfying!
A bit like sweetcorn, I suppose.
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Unread 01-25-2014, 09:33 AM   #20
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And your oil comes out the same colour it went in... satisfying!
A bit like sweetcorn, I suppose.
And tomato seeds

Never tried it on the Jeep or the BMW, will give it a go tomorrow. If i sat there for 30 secs or so in the Jeep @ 2000rpm the neighbours would have a few things to say

I hava a garage 800 yds away selling at 0.78 p/ltr & another a mile away @ 0.69 p/ltr then on the way to London @ 0.65 p/ltr so shopping around pays off. I dont know how the expensive one (BP) can sell it for that? must be because BP stand for "BAST*RD THIEVES" !!

Did yours originally have the single point system when you got it? Just wondered how much more efficient a multi point would be over a single point. I had a single point on a GCZG 4.0 in 98 with the same tank set up as we have now and IIRC i used to get about 180 miles per tank of LPG @ 90% Motorway (highway) @ 70mph & 10% city.

You should be able to fit something to the Jeep to run a grill off the tank, if you look at camper vans these have take offs for this sort of thing with a bottle on the other end so a "T" off the feed pipe running through a bottle regulator should be sweet.
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Unread 01-25-2014, 12:27 PM   #21
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$10 a gallon? Geez! How much of that is tax?
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Unread 01-25-2014, 12:36 PM   #22
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$10 a gallon? Geez! How much of that is tax?
Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots

UK fuel duty is currently 58p per litre for petrol and diesel. Vehicle fuels with a lower impact on carbon emissions or air quality are taxed at lower duty rates; these include liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), compressed natural gas (CNG) and electricity.

Other than fuel duty, the forecourt price of a litre of fuel also includes the product cost (around 50p per litre), Value Added Tax (in the region of 20-25p per litre depending on price)
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Unread 01-26-2014, 08:46 AM   #23
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Nope, a badly bodged multipoint system - I suspect it was taken from another car, and put on by the owner himself. The reducer was cracked, bucketing water into the filter and engine, meaning that the top speed on gas was about 50mph uphill! I quickly got used to hitting the changeover switch when needed, like overtaking... Still haven't used a drop of petrol since I got the new AEB front end kit on - it starts on gas and runs on it.
I may just fit a grill outlet purely to cook burgers on at work - but the flamethrower would be so much more fun!

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Did yours originally have the single point system when you got it? Just wondered how much more efficient a multi point would be over a single point. I had a single point on a GCZG 4.0 in 98 with the same tank set up as we have now and IIRC i used to get about 180 miles per tank of LPG @ 90% Motorway (highway) @ 70mph & 10% city.

You should be able to fit something to the Jeep to run a grill off the tank, if you look at camper vans these have take offs for this sort of thing with a bottle on the other end so a "T" off the feed pipe running through a bottle regulator should be sweet.
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