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post #1 of 16 Old 04-02-2006, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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Which of the Two? (Buying a Jeep)

Hey guys, I used to have a 99 Wranger and sold it for a sports car. I am wanting to get back into the off road world and want nothing other then a Jeep again. I want the capabilities that I had with my wranger, but I also want more security. I have been looking at grand cherokees for a while now and found a few that I am interested in. If you had to decide between the two of them, which would you choose?

1 - 2000 Laredo with the 4.7 V8 , 97,611 Miles... excellent body/condition
2 - 2001 Laredo with the I6 , 85,077 Miles... Body isn't as nice as the 2000.

The lots are asking: 1st jeep: 9,999 and 2nd jeep: 11,500 .

The first jeep I looked up on Kelly Blue book... they are right on the dot for asking price (dealer), however, trade in is around 6,900 and private party is around 8-8,500. What do you all think would be reasonable price?

The second jeep I like b/c of lower miles, but it didnt look like It was in as good of condition as the V8. I did like that it had selectatrac (or whatever it is) so I could go 2wd or 4wd to save gas.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, I am new to the grand's so I dont know what to look out for and what to steer clear of... Thanks

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post #2 of 16 Old 04-02-2006, 07:27 PM
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I would get the first one as long as its 4x4...if gas milage is a big concern get the 2nd. The second one does seem pretty over priced to me though...

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Gas savings is very minimal on either model.I have the 242 TC and going to 2wd rather than 4fulltime does not make a difference on gas mileage.So gas mileage is not an issue on either TC or 4.0/4.7.
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what is wrong with the body on the 01? did you have the dealer run a carfax report? both of thier mileage is a bit high, but remember the 00 is a year older the the 01, so proportionally the mileage should be 10-12k more.

the 4.7 would be nice, but I'd prefer the selectrac (242). toss up on that. luckily I have both (w00t!).

good luck on your quest, keep an eye out, maybe there will be one more to your liking out there soon.

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I vote for the V8!

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Yes, the V8 is the quadtrac (or the 4wd all the time)... the 01 just doesnt look like it has been garage kept (paint looks like it has been sitting out most the time, the lights had a little "haze" of fog in them, little things like that.) KBB on the 2001 with the I6 is 12-13,000. What the dif in MPG from the 4.7 to the I6, also... which one tends to hold up the best after 100k miles?
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The front driveshaft still spins regardless of being in 2wd or 4wd, so there wont be any difference in MPG. Unless you drove around in 4wheel partime.

And I would think being 2WD only there would be a minimal difference anyways and hes looking offroad capibility.

Few things I would look out for if I was buying a newer grand..

Wouldnt get one with the 249 transfer case. (4wd full time)
Wouldnt get one with the digital climate control (Unless the blend doors had been fixed)

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I vote for the V8!
Yes...........But best of all a 4.7 with the 242 TC.
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Yes, the V8 is the quadtrac (or the 4wd all the time)... the 01 just doesnt look like it has been garage kept (paint looks like it has been sitting out most the time, the lights had a little "haze" of fog in them, little things like that.) KBB on the 2001 with the I6 is 12-13,000. What the dif in MPG from the 4.7 to the I6, also... which one tends to hold up the best after 100k miles?
if you ask a 4.0 guy, he'll swear to it, same with the 4.7. point being they are both great engines and last a long time. gas mileage is extremely similar between the two. the paint issue worries me... owner neglect of the paint could also be neglect to other things (ie oil changes and maint.) look under both rigs if you can and check overall mech condition, leaks, and test drive them too. on the QT equipped 4.7, check steering for wheel hop at full crank... maybe signs of a bad VC (i hear this can happen to QT TCs). good luck with the choice



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Yes...........But best of all a 4.7 with the 242 TC.
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Well the 4.7 Is a 4wd all the time TC, so would it be the 242 or the 249?
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Look for one with a 2WD option on the shift lever.. The 249 doesnt have that.

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WJ's don't have VC..
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Personally, i'd go with the 4.7 V8. In 4low, is still locks the differential in the transfer case. Depends on how much you use it offroad. People saying its a 249? read the tag on the back, it could be a 247? i'm not sure. In terms of longevity, i've seen 4L's go for almost 300k, and 4.7's for about the same. When the summer comes, and you put the A/C on, you're gonna wish you had those 2 extra cylinders. How about the interiors? Do they both have leather? That alone would sell me on a WJ. And yes, Joe is right, the blend doors do break on almost all the CC jeeps, and you have to pull the dash to fix it, but if they have A/c, you're gonna go in there to do an Evap eventually anyways. Though the Selectrac is nice, offering REAL 4wd with no gear reduction, i'd go for the v8. HOWEVER. It's always up to you. Go with your gut.

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Since both Heeps have close to 100k, be sure to check the neccesities, (like front end, etc.) Including ball joints. also, look out for pinion seal leaks, Warped Rotors, worn brakes, T-case Leaks, And Axle seal leaks. If it has the Hudraulic Fan option, make sure the lines going to them are good (and not leaking). AND, if you get under the 4 liter, and the rear main seal is leaking, thats normal. (haha)

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Well the 4.7 Is a 4wd all the time TC, so would it be the 242 or the 249?
Neither, it has the NV247 transfer case. Come on now guys, no WJ came with a VC type trasfer case so you don't have to worry about that on either jeep.
The NV247 is pretty solid. It doesn't have as many selections as the NV242 but those are mostly novelties anyways.

Both engines are pretty reliable, the 4.0 has a reputation of being pretty much bullet proof, the 4.7 just hasn't been around as long so it's hard to talk about extreme longevity.
My 4.7 has 92K miles on it and has had zero problems so far, it seems very solid.

Gas mileage is pretty similar on both, the 4.0 is a little more frugal but personally I'd take the extra power over the miniscule gas savings.

If the 4.0 was the one that was in better condition then it would be a more difficult decision, but now, I would go with the 4.7 that looks like it's in better shape.
If you can, try talking the dealer into changing all the fluids (oil, ATF, TC, diffs, hydraulic, and brake fluid), it's about time for that anyways.
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