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Unread 08-07-2007, 03:48 PM   #1
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Transfer case lever stuck

Hi all,

I just bought a 01 WJ (with QTII) and the transfer case lever is stuck in 4 All Time. The previous owner said he didn't switch it to 4LO for years - and never took it off road!!

Anyway, I want to get it fixed up and from the reading I've been doing it appears the linkage may be seized up - I tried moving the lever attached to the transfer case underneath manually but it wouldn't move. Not sure if I was at the right thing

Anyway - any one else had this problem? I think I may just need some rust penetration spray and grease it up - but I'm not sure what exactly is seized up.

A picture would be helpful if anyone has a suggestion

Thanks,

Fred AKA n00b

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Unread 08-07-2007, 07:12 PM   #2
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I found this link from a few years ago, but it sounds just like the problem I'm having.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/t237181.html

When he says "the selector rod together with the torque shaft were STUCK in the frame bucket!" - forgive me but - where exactly would I find that. I'm in unknown waters now

Thanks!

Fred - n00b
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Unread 08-07-2007, 08:38 PM   #3
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All that stuff is under the Jeep bolted to the side of the tranny. Just crawl underneath and soak all the linkage you can see with penetrating oil and try working it back and forth.




Or just pick up a piece of "The Rock" and beat it into submission.
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Unread 08-08-2007, 02:33 PM   #4
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I went and checked the TC oil tonight, and it's low. I put my finger inside and couldn't feel a pool of oil - but I could feel the oil in the sides (I just got home). I was planning on changing the TC oil this weekend anyway.

Any by penetration oil - would you recommend WD-40 or something else? Is liquid wrench better?

Rock - what rock ?? I can't see any rocks around here.... oh wait now

Thanks!
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Unread 08-08-2007, 06:08 PM   #5
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put ur tranny in Neutral and shut ur jeep off, then try to change it...

sometimes mine gets stuck and thats how i hafta do it..
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Unread 08-10-2007, 03:17 PM   #6
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UPDATE: Change the TC fluid today and sprayed some liquid wrench on (what looks like) the lever in question attached to the TC.

I don't have a pic, but its basically a vertical lever with a cable attached to it. Does that go to the shift lever?

I sprayed it and gave it a knock - waited a few min and then repeated with no love. The shift lever still only moves a little bit back and forth.

One thing I noticed today was that there is an orange indicator when movng the shift lever - its actually a bit down (towards N) and I can push it up toward 4 ALL TIME.

Anyway, I'm gonna leave it overnight and see what happens in the morning. Any other comments or suggestions?

Thanks,
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Unread 08-10-2007, 03:35 PM   #7
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Doing some reading it appears that liquid wrench may take a few applications (and a few days) to works its magic

At least now it wont eat into my drinking time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Street,_St._John's

"It is understood by locals and those who choose its nightlife as a destination to have the most pubs per square foot of any street in North America"
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Unread 08-10-2007, 04:35 PM   #8
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screw liquid wrench. get pb blaster it works small miracles
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Unread 08-10-2007, 04:43 PM   #9
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If you use PB and it sitll is sticking, the problem is elsewhere.

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Unread 08-11-2007, 10:45 AM   #10
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Hmm - OK

Picked up some PB today and we'll see what happens.

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Unread 08-11-2007, 04:29 PM   #11
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im not quite sure about QT but on my 01 with selec-trac, any time you want to shift you have to press down on the shift lever. the handle on it goes down about a half inch and that unlocks it so it can be shifted.
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Unread 08-11-2007, 05:02 PM   #12
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I've got a QTII, just took it around the block and shifted it into 4lo a few times- I didn't have to push down, (cmarjeep is right, selec-trac you have to push down)and it shifted pretty smooth the whole way back ..

I hope your TC is ok.....


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Unread 08-14-2007, 12:07 PM   #13
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So - another update on this. The PB hasn't made a difference, so today I took the center console apart to see if there was anything with the shifter.

Here is a picture of the shifter:



The area I have circled in blue - I'd like to pull that off to see I can then move the lever but it wouldn't come off easy -

The lever circled in red won't move - at all.. I have the car in N as the manual says but that black lever won't move. Not even when trying with a pair of pliers there is a bit of give.. but nothing compared to the same black lever on the other shifter:

Here is the other shifter:



And here it is when you press on the handle (as if you were moving into drive)



I can also move that lever with my finger.

So - is that lever in the first pic suppose to move? If so what would you suggest - a bit of lubricant to try and get it moving? What actually makes that lever move back and forth on the TC shift lever?

Thanks!
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Unread 08-14-2007, 05:06 PM   #14
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Bump - geesh, that went fast
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Bump....
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