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post #1 of 18 Old 10-27-2016, 09:49 PM Thread Starter
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Track bar bolt and flag nut

Is there a source for a bolt and flag nut for 95 ZJ? Should I just put a grade 8 in there?

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post #2 of 18 Old 10-27-2016, 11:06 PM
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Why not reuse the existing parts?

If new parts are needed, then why not just get Mopar OEM replacement?


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Mine broke when I was replacing my track bar. The bolt had rusted inside the flag nut and snapped when trying to loosen. Tough time trimming it down enough to get the flag nut out of there.

I bought a bolt and nut from McMaster, and used some washers. You can use a regular nut and just slip a crescent wrench up in there to hold it while tightening.

I forget the size/specs, but since it's suspension get the strongest grade you can.

Edit: I believe it was M10 x 1.5 x 50mm
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Why not reuse the existing parts?

If new parts are needed, then why not just get Mopar OEM replacement?

Wish I could Wingless. The whole mess is rusted beyond belief. This was a Michigan Jeep before I got it.
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Mine broke when I was replacing my track bar. The bolt had rusted inside the flag nut and snapped when trying to loosen. Tough time trimming it down enough to get the flag nut out of there.

I bought a bolt and nut from McMaster, and used some washers. You can use a regular nut and just slip a crescent wrench up in there to hold it while tightening.

I forget the size/specs, but since it's suspension get the strongest grade you can.

Edit: I believe it was M10 x 1.5 x 50mm
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Looks great but kinda pricey.....I think I'll try a regular bolt and nut(grade 8). What is the reason for that flag nut thing-a-ma-jig?
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Looks great but kinda pricey.....I think I'll try a regular bolt and nut(grade 8). What is the reason for that flag nut thing-a-ma-jig?
Go to the junk yard and get a few more. There are thousands of ZJ's in the junkyards all over the place.
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Looks great but kinda pricey.....I think I'll try a regular bolt and nut(grade 8). What is the reason for that flag nut thing-a-ma-jig?
Ease of installation and removal.

There's no reason not to use a SAE grade 8 bolt and nut in there instead of the OEM metric m10 class 10.9 - one suggestion thoughm drill the trackbar bushing and bracjet holes to the nnext larger SAE size (7/16") from the 10mm.

If I were hou, I'd go with a flanged nut and bolt. If you can't easily find them, use washers.

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Wish I could Wingless. The whole mess is rusted beyond belief. This was a Michigan Jeep before I got it.

I had a Michigan jeep back in 98 and it was a 97.. Rusting started popping out everywhere. Got rid of that real quick. You couldn't even read the paint code.
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Looks great but kinda pricey.....I think I'll try a regular bolt and nut(grade 8). What is the reason for that flag nut thing-a-ma-jig?
There is little relief to access a regular nut, flag nut makes it easy but not required.

Hey it's on sale! It's for his trackbar setup anyway so its more hardware than you would need and you'd have to get the proper bushing sleeve for the axle side.
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Hey it's on sale! It's for his trackbar setup anyway so its more hardware than you would need and you'd have to get the proper bushing sleeve for the axle side.
Actually that sale price isn't bad HL if you consider the price of OE.

Even though my flag nut was rusted terribly I was able to salvage it in using lots of rust cutter and probably heat to remove it. But in being the first time in removing the bolt I didn't know what I was doing and removed it with tension still on the track bar.

Guess I should have noticed the axle track bar bracket hole was stripping the threads right off of the bolt as it came out at an angle. Expensive lesson learned and just the bolt was $18 at the dealer with a 25% 'cuz' discount.

Then I couldn't get the track bar lined up to put the new bolt through the bracket/hole. That's when Polka came along telling me to turn the steering wheel with tires slightly on the ground to let the unibody do the work and problem solved!

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I picked up a new OEM bolt and flag nut before I removed my track bar for the first time. Turned out not to be necessary at all, but I reinstalled using the new ones and kept the old ones as spares.
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I had a Michigan jeep back in 98 and it was a 97.. Rusting started popping out everywhere. Got rid of that real quick. You couldn't even read the paint code.
So you know what I'm up against......I brought this ZJ back from the dead after it sat 7 years. It's a real zombie. I have questioned my sanity many times but for some reason I fell in love with this thing. Thanks go out to the folks on this forum for all the help that have make this awakening possible.
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One other idea I got from somewhere is to weld washers to the bracket to mitigate the hole wallowing process. Do you all concur on this idea?
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One other idea I got from somewhere is to weld washers to the bracket to mitigate the hole wallowing process. Do you all concur on this idea?
Yes.
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