MT's suck on the hard packed snow, because the big tread blocks can't grab it. My Duras are way better on hardpacked than my old Cooper STT's were, while the STT's were maybe a bit better in the unplowed deep stuff.
But I still have no problems with the Dura's, they get me exactly where I need to go with no drama.
Just my two cents but I thought my Dunlop Mud Rovers were amazing in the snow and ice last year. I dont see why people always say MTs are bad in that kind of weather, because my jeep was unstopable
Well, you said it yourself - your Jeep was unstoppable! Really, the problem usually isn't getting up to speed, it's staying on the road and trying to stop. You can always anticipate and take it easy, but it's those suprise moments that are gonna get you..
Then again, I've been using MT- style tires for the past four winters without too many close- calls. But I've certainly had a lot more of 'em than I had with true winter tires. I also leavy my Jeep home and take a bus/ metro if I know it's all ice out there on the roads. Snow grip is fine as long as it's not compacted to something ice- like. The deeper the snow, the better they perform.
i will stand by the ats as i had a set of blizzaks and a set of procomp mud terrains and mud terrains did great in deep so but hold on for dear life if theirs ice or packed snow. The blizzacks were great on snow thats on the road but offroad forget it . The ats were fine out there in 2wd and i hardly use 4wd in snow anymore and they are better on ice then any tire i have, but here is this piece of advice, no matter what tires you have ,you will not get the same traction as everyone else gets because everyone drives diff.Timo has a niner that can smoke the tires in 4x4 ,yet i have a 4.0 the difference is how fast you turn , brake ,and press on the gas will determine which tire works best for you not to mention here we have lake effect snow which is much different kind of snow...
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Timo has a niner that can smoke the tires in 4x4 ,yet i have a 4.0 the difference is how fast you turn , brake ,and press on the gas will determine which tire works best for you not to mention here we have lake effect snow which is much different kind of snow...
On snow or ice, I usually take it pretty easy unless I want to goof around on empty streets
You're spot-on right about the driving style, it makes a heck of a difference. One thing I've been wondering is how different is the snow out there by the lakes? I live by the sea (which is actually smaller than any of the Great Lakes ) and we occasionally get lot's of snow at once, but I haven't noticed it being much different from what we get in-land.
What you said about Blizzaks - or any other winter tires for that matter - they really are worthless on deep snow on the trails. They work really well on the road, but take it offroad in anything deeper than the axles and you're not going anywhere.
Are those yours? Been thinking about a set. I have the type with tightening cams and I don't like that.
Cam locks can be hard to release after freezing up with slush.
Chains were a local purchase, had trouble finding real chains in large size, most cars here use studded rubber straps and other clamp-on gadgets. Found these at a truck repair shop several years ago. Photo is 2-3 years old, currently running on LT30X9.5 Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor.
Both the Goodyear Duratrac and the General Grabber AT2 are AT tires that are winter rated and can be studded. I have used the Nokian Hakka SUV studded snow, they were great and good for mild off road as well, they are still sold in an LT version but are hard to find and expensive. The Grabber AT2 studded I have had on my ZJ for the past 3 winters, and they are pretty good, maybe not quite as good as the Nokian were but they are likely to last much longer. I take them off at the end of the winter (mounted on Cherokee steel wheels) and put on my other set of Grabber AT2s on the ZJ alloys. I haven't tried the Duratracs, I'd like to but at the rate I am going, the Generals will last a long time......