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Unread 06-08-2013, 09:58 PM   #16
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I just fulled up with premium today at 3.00 per gallon. I saved up my grocery perks and used them today for almost a dollar off. It was nice. I wish those prices would return.

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Unread 06-08-2013, 11:45 PM   #17
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I just fulled up with premium today at 3.00 per gallon. I saved up my grocery perks and used them today for almost a dollar off. It was nice. I wish those prices would return.
My 5.2 takes 80 to fill and gets 7mpgs. But I can run stuff over and that makes me feel better. I may have to go up north and get a niner!!
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Unread 06-09-2013, 02:39 AM   #18
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I really wanted a black niner that was being sold near where I live, but there was a 98 4.0 for sale w/ the 249 that was in much better condition, and I pulled the trigger. I get 16 MPG city, and 20-23 MPG highway.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 03:49 AM   #19
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You guys are lucky Over here where niners aren't too common people are still asking crazy high prices on 'em - even though pretty much no-one wants to daily drive with a niner because of the sky- high gas prices. Average asking prices are ~7500-8500€ (works out to around 10k US$) for ones that are in good condition and relatively low miles.

Considering gas prices at the moment are around 1.60€ / litre (8$ per gallon) for 95E10 and 1.70€ / litre (10$) for 98E5 and Shell V-Power, it's not cheap to drive one. I average around 13mpg for my daily commute to work and back, although I only drive around 20 miles a day for work. Add to that the other driving I do, it's around 600 miles a month -> 46 gallons of fuel -> ~370$ a month for gas

..and people wonder why I try to use the metro and buses as much as possible..
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Unread 06-09-2013, 11:26 AM   #20
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There's not too many low mileage (under 100k) 5.9's left. I paid $3,200 dollars a month ago for a silver one with 110,000 mi. It's got some dings and scrapes but overall a good solid truck and everything works. My favorite would have been white, then black, and silver the least but it's growing on me.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #21
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Considering gas prices at the moment are around 1.60 / litre (8$ per gallon) for 95E10 and 1.70 / litre (10$) for 98E5 and Shell V-Power, it's not cheap to drive one.
HOLY CRAP...... And I thought $3.75/$3.95 a gallon here was high......

I have a 97 ZJ 4.0, and 98% of my driving is city. (I work 1 mile from where I live, and driving the kids around) I only drive maybe 400 miles a month, and my average is about 13.5 mpg. But when I leg it on the highway I get about 23-25.

No wonder Americans are the only ones who seem to love niners.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 12:09 PM   #22
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Sure but consideration to what the minimum wages are it could all even out, I make about 45,000 a year and $4.00 a gallon almost kills my budget.
In Europe wages are probably triple what they are here?
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Unread 06-09-2013, 12:42 PM   #23
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In Europe wages are probably triple what they are here?
Average wages, no way. Some countries have minimum wages, ie. here it's something like 7-8$ an hour, working 40 hour weeks you end up with so little money you could hardly pay the rent for a single room apartment with a toilet/ shower, and pay for food here in the capital. You'd be left with absolutely no possibility to own and drive a car.

Average wages depend a lot on the country, but the highest- earning countries also tend to have the highest income taxes, sales tax on goods, etc.. for example here in Finland the avarage wages are about 45k in US$, and Finland is in the highest quadrant in incomes within Europe. I myself make around 90k a year, but my overall tax rate is slightly over 35% - so with all the mandatory expenses in everyday life (and building a house ) it doesn't really leave me with too much to spend. Without the house project I'd be looking at getting around 1k extra per month to spend or save.

Finland is among to most expensive countries to live in, as is Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Most of the middle Europe (Germany, Netherlands, France, Belgium,...) wages are roughly the same, but taxes are lower and goods are less expensive so they end up with around 20-30% more to spend.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #24
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I guess the grass isn't greener on the other side lol... Just shows what I know...live a pretty sheltered life and don't get away much.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 03:34 PM   #25
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Does anyone know what it takes to purchase a vehicle in Canada and bring it to the US? I'd imagine there is some form of tax or tariff at the border.
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Unread 06-10-2013, 09:37 AM   #26
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Here is another one...little over 140 000 miles when converted from kilometers...

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ492568435
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Unread 06-10-2013, 12:08 PM   #27
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Does anyone know what it takes to purchase a vehicle in Canada and bring it to the US? I'd imagine there is some form of tax or tariff at the border.
I don't think there is any tax at the border, but I imagine there might be a some hassle involved, when trying to convert the Canadian ownership to the US
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Unread 06-10-2013, 01:28 PM   #28
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Here is another one...little over 140 000 miles when converted from kilometers...

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ492568435
Now that grass is greener lol!
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Unread 06-10-2013, 03:01 PM   #29
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Now that grass is greener lol!
Just out of curiosity...how much $ do you think something like that would sell for south of the border?
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Unread 06-10-2013, 03:11 PM   #30
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I just paid 3,200 for a similar truck, same color no rust a few dings nothing serious 110,000 mi.
Over 200k is alot of miles, 1,500 is about it for that one.
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