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Unread 06-08-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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To those hunting for the "niner"

It seems to me, that for one reason or another and based on all the "niner" chatter on this forum, they are much more sought after south of the border, than up here in Canada...

I keep seeing them up here all the time and usually pretty cheap, so I decided that every time I stumble across one of them, I will post the find for you guys...
I realize, that most of you might be too far away, but will post them anyway:

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ491697373

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Unread 06-08-2013, 02:26 PM   #2
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They are cheaper up there because of the fuel mileage. The crappier the mileage the cheaper a vehicle will be.

Same thing for any country that pays a high price for the go go juice.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 03:32 PM   #3
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That would sure be a good deal in the northeast Ohio snow belt, in winter, or summer, pulling my boat, I'll take 2 please.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 04:23 PM   #4
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They are cheaper up there because of the fuel mileage. The crappier the mileage the cheaper a vehicle will be.

Same thing for any country that pays a high price for the go go juice.
Yes I know...When I was just starting my ZJ research (not knowing anything about them), I accidentally almost bought one...
It looked to be in excellent condition, price was right and the owner made sure not to mention the fact, that its a 5.9 in his ad, so he wouldn't scare away any potentional buyers....

Of course, once I realized what I'm looking at, the conversation came to a grinding halt.....
I think the seller was pretty much expecting it, as he didn't even look surprised....he even offered to knock off another $500 from the already low price of $1500....
I did some quick math and I realized, that in order for me to take it he would have to pay me....I wouldn't want it even if it was free, because of what it would cost me to go back and forth to work just in gas...
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Unread 06-08-2013, 04:32 PM   #5
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Yes I know...When I was just starting my ZJ research (not knowing anything about them), I accidentally almost bought one...
It looked to be in excellent condition, price was right and the owner made sure not to mention the fact, that its a 5.9 in his ad, so he wouldn't scare away any potentional buyers....

Of course, once I realized what I'm looking at, the conversation came to a grinding halt.....
I think the seller was pretty much expecting it, as he didn't even look surprised....he even offered to knock off another $500 from the already low price of $1500....
I did some quick math and I realized, that in order for me to take it he would have to pay me....I wouldn't want it even if it was free, because of what it would cost me to go back and forth to work just in gas...
3 mpg difference?
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Unread 06-08-2013, 04:41 PM   #6
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3 mpg difference?
I think it would be a little more than 3 MPG difference...
I average little over 20 MPG (mostly highway) with the 4.0 (stock tire size and everything else)

I think I would be very lucky to get 17 out of the 5.9...but even if I did, the difference still adds up in the long run...
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Unread 06-08-2013, 05:30 PM   #7
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I think it would be a little more than 3 MPG difference...
I average little over 20 MPG (mostly highway) with the 4.0 (stock tire size and everything else)

I think I would be very lucky to get 17 out of the 5.9...but even if I did, the difference still adds up in the long run...
You are correct in that in the long run the 4.0 does get better mileage but according to the us department of energy the 5.9 gets 16 mpg highway and the 4.0 gets 19.

To me the extra $40 per 1000 miles seems negligible.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 06:34 PM   #8
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A friend of mine has a nice clean 5.9 GC that he never drives any more. Been trying to sell it for over a year now. I think hes asking to much for it.
Its a 98, gray, 4x4, loaded, 149k miles, clean and rust free. He wants $5,995 for it!

Told him hes nuts but he thinks he will get it.
I offered him 2k for it and he told me no.

He said when he drove it every day he averaged 11mpg!

I think he will own it for ever at that price.

Good rig but there are way better options out there for 6k.
I bout a 98 4.0 ZJ with 152k on it in great shape for $2,400! And its loaded to!
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Unread 06-08-2013, 06:57 PM   #9
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You are correct in that in the long run the 4.0 does get better mileage but according to the us department of energy the 5.9 gets 16 mpg highway and the 4.0 gets 19.

To me the extra $40 per 1000 miles seems negligible.
Working with the "only 3 MPG" difference numbers and taking into account my daily commute, it makes a difference of about $180 per month using the current gas price...and that's without factoring in the cost of the premium gas needed for the 5.9...

But in the real world scenario I get over 20MPG with my 4.0 (better than the department of energy advertised mileage)...

As I have previously mentioned, I honestly doubt that you would be able to find too many 5.9's that will do 17 MPG...meaning that the difference between my Jeep and the 5.9 would likely be much greater than "only 3 MPG"
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Unread 06-08-2013, 07:11 PM   #10
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If you're worried about mileage, you shouldn't own a Jeep, except maybe the Compass

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Unread 06-08-2013, 07:27 PM   #11
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If you're worried about mileage, you shouldn't own a Jeep, except maybe the Compass

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I'm not worried about the mileage of the 4.0....I'm worried about the mileage of the 5.9.
I can deal with 20 MPG, but that is about my limit to what I'm willing to pay at the pump...
I thought that was pretty clear throughout my posts.

I got the Grand Cherokee mainly, because I like the clean and simple square look and the ability to get me through a big snowfall...
I can't stand the new weird alien-spaceship shaped garbage, most manufacturers seem to insist on making these days...
Compass would be a perfect example, as it looks like it was designed by someone who's mentally challenged and blind to boot....
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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:03 PM   #12
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The niner also requires premium pump fuel which only
adds salt to the wound.
Some just like the awsome feel of overtaking a vehicle on the freeway upgrade pulling a boat, I just did that tonight, it was a great high.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:10 PM   #13
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The niner also requires premium pump fuel which only
adds salt to the wound.

Not sure about the US, but up here the difference between regular and premium is about 15 cents per liter...it adds up very fast
Im pretty sure it feels great overtaking another vehicle while pulling a boat, but there is a price attached to that feeling...
Besides there are probably far more suitable vehicles out there for pulling heavy stuff than the ZJ...especially some of the diesel pickups...
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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:17 PM   #14
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Mine is a mileage freak sort of. 16 mpg??? I can get that city driving with the SCT tuner and I get a solid 20 mpg on the freeway with a 5.9. As long as Im not flying.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:37 PM   #15
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Not sure about the US, but up here the difference between regular and premium is about 15 cents per liter...
If I am correct that works out to about 55 cents a gallon. That sucks! Here in the states the difference is about 15-20 cents a gallon. That would up real fast. If it helps my 5.2 averages around 12MPG on stock everything but that is almost all city driving.
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