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Unread 09-15-2009, 02:49 PM   #1
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Testing the waters on a grand cherokee

So right now I have a TJ. I love it but... when I got it I didnt really get what I should have, and now i have to replace axles.... and you know all that stuff.

I have always liked the look of a good lifted grand cherokee, and secretly like them as much as wranglers.

here is my question...

If I happened to want to sell my wrangler, what would i want to look for in a grand cherokee. I know that manual transmissions aren't common, but i really want one. what years did this come in? what motor would i want to look for?

Also, what axles should i look for, and what is the largest tire size i can run with them

how much is a good lift to run 33's?
how reliable are they compared to tjs?

just pretty much the stuff you guys would want on yours for a good platform to start from if you were beginning a build

thanks alot
what gas milage lol

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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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Finding a 5 speed behind a I6, will be hard since they only made 600 in 93' and 400 in 94'.
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Parts for sale d30 and d35 parts http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f126/...-parts-1004499
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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:22 PM   #3
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well.... other than that. If i got an automatic
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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:26 PM   #4
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I have a 4" with 31's and no rub, if you don't mind trimming a little they should fit. THe wranglers and grands share alot of the same parts from the same manufacturer so reliability should be simular.
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03' Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, (wifes Jeep) 99k, 4.7 5 speed auto, K&N, KYB shocks, drilled-slotted rotors, All the toys.
2000' Ford Superduty, F250, 7.3, 198K, 37's, too much to list.

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Parts for sale d30 and d35 parts http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f126/...-parts-1004499
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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:33 PM   #5
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I went from xj to zj and stayed with the I6.
zj's also have the 5.2L V8, and in '98 the 5.9
the I6 only has d30 and d35s tho, some or all V8s have a d44 out back? im not sure, theres guys around here that know more then me.
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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:39 PM   #6
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Do you want a WJ or a ZJ?

wj- 4.7 + 242 + 30 + 44a FTW
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Unread 09-15-2009, 03:48 PM   #7
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I recommend a ZJ because you can get one for cheap these days, there is tons more aftermarket support than a WJ. The I6 is sufficient for the ZJ, but the MPG difference from the V8 is ~1.5MPG. Plus you get sooo much more power and torque with that V8 it makes a world of difference.

Where do you think TJs got their suspension from?

ZJs are very reliable vehicles if maintained properly. Be sure to do routine inspection before purchasing, but they are bulletproof vehicles. Built very well and last a lifetime, but that doesnt mean parts dont wear out.

33" tires can be run with 4.5" or so of lift with some minor trimmings, but take that with a grain of salt.

I have a friend running 36" TSL swampers on his D35 with 4.56 gears. It's a bit of a stretch but its possible. a V8 ZJ years 96-98 have the D44a, 93-95 have the D35. All I-6 ZJs rock the 35.
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Unread 09-15-2009, 05:16 PM   #8
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As far as axles, the TJ and ZJ are on equal ground. So any problems you have with your TJ, you'll have again with a ZJ. However, I went from a built Wrangler 5-speed to this ZJ automatic and I don't regret it a bit. The Wrangler was such a b*tch on the highway that I'd never drive it on trips to offroad parks. The Grand is comfy enough for me and the entire family to drive it places. And that alone is worth the swap to me. The removable top was nice on perfect days. But perfect days are few and far between here. So for an all around vehicle, you can't beat the ZJ in my opinion.
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Unread 09-15-2009, 10:12 PM   #9
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What do you think i could get a good zj for? stock but in good condition? A v8 like you guys said
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Unread 09-15-2009, 10:23 PM   #10
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I was in the same boat as you but i kept my wrangler and picked up a 98 ZJ Laredo with IL6 for 2500 it was never off roaded or wrecked and garage kept. I have a 4" rough country kit with 32x11.50x15. I got tired of driving the wrangler everyday that's why i bought the GC. The grand hangs well where my TJ did just has more of a better ride lol. I'm averaging about 15 when mainly doing highway driving.
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Unread 09-16-2009, 05:16 AM   #11
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I6 with 3.73 rears. FTW. engines last forever.
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