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Unread 08-02-2009, 01:59 AM   #1
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That stupid Cps

Ok i been all over the internet and here I have a 99 laredo 4.0 I6.
I went to autozone cause the Check engine light came on. The guy said it was the Fuel pump solenoid. I get home and I check my own codes (key cycled on/off 3 times) odometer gave codes 0320 1494 the 1494 is the LDP WHICH JUST TURNED OUT TO BE A DISCONNECTED VACUM LINE. I go back and check still pulling a 0320 so i go to azone get the part . I,m lookig for this dam thing and the book (haynes) claims it to be on the drivers side atop the bell housing. well behold there looks to be something similar to what i got .NOW the problem is 2 fold 1st the wire traveling from the cps in the bell housing travels behind the engine over to the passenger side. The one i have has about 6" of wire which comes out to short. THE 2nd part is there is only one bolt holding this in, alot of forums claim to have 2 and the possibility of them falling in the bell housing. BEFORE i bust up a few more knuckles kick the dog and throw another laptop across the street. PLEASE TELL ME IF WHAT IM LOOKING AT IS THE CPS. IM NOT SURE CAUS IT HAS ONLY ONE BOLT AND THE WIRE IS AT LEAST TWICE AS LONG AS THE ONE FROM A ZONE( YES I AM VERY VERY STRESSED OUT) .


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Unread 08-02-2009, 02:44 AM   #2
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REMOVAL
(1) Disconnect sensor pigtail harness (3–way connector)
from main engine wiring harness.
(2) Remove sensor mounting bolt.
(3) Remove wire shield and sensor.
INSTALLATION
4.0L engines with automatic transmission:
New replacement sensors will be equipped with a
paper spacer glued to bottom of sensor. If installing
(returning) a used sensor to vehicle, a new paper
spacer must be installed to bottom of sensor. This
spacer will be ground off the first time engine is
started. If spacer is not used, sensor will be broken
the first time engine is started.
(1) New Sensors: Be sure paper spacer is installed
to bottom of sensor. If not, obtain spacer
PN05252229.
(2) Used Sensors: Clean bottom of sensor and
install spacer PN05252229.
(3) Install sensor into transmission bellhousing
hole.
(4) Position sensor wire shield to sensor .
(5) Push sensor against flywheel/drive plate. With
sensor pushed against flywheel/drive plate, tighten
mounting bolt to 7 N·m (60 in. lbs.) torque.
(6) Route sensor wiring harness into wire shield.
(7) Connect sensor pigtail harness electrical connector
to main wiring harnes

After viewing the diagrams (1999 model), it's 1 bolt holding it on .
Return the junk you bought from Autozone , and buy a Mopar sensor . Here's one reason http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/intermittent-crank-position-sensor-821891/
As for the wiring issue with separate wires , makes no sense to me , they are all connected to only one pigtail
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Unread 08-02-2009, 04:14 AM   #3
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I am tired and Didn't read this very well.

what problem is this causes you?? I either missed something or the only issue is you don't like your check engine light to be on. If it isn't actually harming anything who cares.


On the other side there is no need to be lazy and you should maintain your vehicle. I can't really offer any advice. Newfie seems to totally have it covered.

Oh actually I do have some advice. Throw that ****ing haynes manual in the trash where it belongs. Go buy a decent manual for your jeep man.
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Unread 08-02-2009, 05:03 AM   #4
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some states require that the check engine light be out and no codes are present in order to pass state inspection.

In florida, I think its legal to drive a wet cardboard box with a motor and 3-1/2 wheels. :P


Pull your old sensor take it over to autozone, shove the other part they gave you in the guys orifice of your choice and tell him to give you the right part!
if they dont have it, find a Napa dealer!
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Unread 08-02-2009, 06:08 AM   #5
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some states require that the check engine light be out and no codes are present in order to pass state inspection.

In florida, I think its legal to drive a wet cardboard box with a motor and 3-1/2 wheels. :P


Pull your old sensor take it over to autozone, shove the other part they gave you in the guys orifice of your choice and tell him to give you the right part!
if they dont have it, find a Napa dealer!
lol wtf do you have your car inspected like twice a year?
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Unread 08-02-2009, 02:49 PM   #6
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the cps is right now is telling him that it's about to shut his jeep off at 75mph on the interstate without warning. ALWAYS replace the cps when it wants you to.
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Unread 08-02-2009, 02:51 PM   #7
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the cps is right now is telling him that it's about to shut his jeep off at 75mph on the interstate without warning. ALWAYS replace the cps when it wants you to.
Agreed, the more you drive, the more the CPS acts up. It's not fun losing power brakes and steering going 60 mph down the highway.
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Unread 08-02-2009, 04:13 PM   #8
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Ok the cps shut my jeep off. I went out today got soaked to take a few pics. I understand its a pretty straight forward simple deal in replacing this cps. However at 50.00 a piece and risking major engine failure. im going with the old a picture is worth a thousands words. so i uploaded at photo bucket and im gonna try to link in here if it dont work ill email the pics to anyone that wants them




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Unread 08-02-2009, 04:39 PM   #9
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Ok the cps shut my jeep off. I went out today got soaked to take a few pics. I understand its a pretty straight forward simple deal in replacing this cps. However at 50.00 a piece and risking major engine failure. im going with the old a picture is worth a thousands words. so i uploaded at photo bucket and im gonna try to link in here if it dont work ill email the pics to anyone that wants them




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Unread 08-02-2009, 04:43 PM   #10
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''If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong.''
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Unread 08-02-2009, 04:47 PM   #11
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lol wtf do you have your car inspected like twice a year?
Pa. is once a year. and in certain parts of the state the vehicle needs to be run on a dyno for emmitions (<spelling?) testing.
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''If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong.''
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Unread 08-02-2009, 06:29 PM   #12
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thanks for putting the pics up Now i got the bolt out but it dosent look like it will have enough room to clear and come out (unless the oem sensor is shorter then the one i got) any thoughts?????
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Unread 08-02-2009, 06:47 PM   #13
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Keep in mind that I'm a ZJ guy, not a WJ guy.
Butt,
I know they ****ed us v8 guys with room up against the firewall in both modles, but that thing will come out of there. and if the new part is the same size, it will fit back in.

remember to keep the spacer on there and not mess that new one up!

It can be done!



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''If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong.''
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Unread 08-02-2009, 07:39 PM   #14
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ok so in my continued search i came across this http://www.revbeergoggles.com/cps/ its pretty good info on this whole cps issue. tomorrow i take the little girl out to the car if she gets it out its happy meal heaven for her. By the way is there a place on here that has something of an online "how to manual" that everyone can contribute there little tips and tricks to?
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Unread 08-03-2009, 02:45 PM   #15
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FINALLY! DONE Back up and running smooth. IF Anyone ever has to do this the 2 most important things to rember are #1 YOU WILL NEED SOMEONE WITH REALLY SKINNY ARMS. #2 TURN THE CPS TO GET IT OUT. Thanks to everyone for there input.
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