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post #1 of 11 Old 01-14-2014, 01:44 PM Thread Starter
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Running a TJ swaybar with Clayton LA's?

Picking up a Clayton rear upgrade kit for the ZJ soon, from what I'v read there can be clearance issues with the OEM ZJ swaybar on uptravel.

Assuming a few guys here have swapped a TJ in, I'd like to see what links you used and how you attached to the unirail. Pics would be helpful.

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post #2 of 11 Old 01-14-2014, 05:18 PM
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I just installed a claytons LA kit on mine so am curious on this now as well? What is the advantages to the tj swaybar?

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I yanked my rear sway bar a long time ago. Why would you need it?

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speed.. do you have the front sway still on??

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Absolutely. Front sway is an absolute must. The only way I'd ditch that is if I decide on buying some ori struts

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I don't notice not having a rear sway. Maybe if I put one in then I'd notice.

Ratmonkey, may he rest in peace, had one on his 8.8 and claytons. Can't remember if it was because he liked it or only because he needed it to pass inspection.

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I yanked my rear sway bar a long time ago. Why would you need it?
Potentially pulling a trailer ~1500lbs cross country. Excellent road manners are a requirement for me which is why i'm upgrading from SA's. I'v already got Clayton kit up front.

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Yeah, I bumped that the other day. Sudz is a local bud of mine and the one who first mentioned the TJ swaybar. I like the way he spaced out the links and used the OEM upper arm bolt location, but I think I'd prefer regular links such as Ted's. Figured I might get a better/different idea from members here.

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I don't notice not having a rear sway. Maybe if I put one in then I'd notice.

Ratmonkey, may he rest in peace, had one on his 8.8 and claytons. Can't remember if it was because he liked it or only because he needed it to pass inspection.
Thanks for the tip, i'll check Rat's build.
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I yanked my rear sway bar a long time ago. Why would you need it?
Agreed. The rear sway bars were engineered to fine tune the steering characteristics of the stock suspension. Why on Earth would anybody expect it to do something useful with a completely different suspension design?
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Agreed. The rear sway bars were engineered to fine tune the steering characteristics of the stock suspension. Why on Earth would anybody expect it to do something useful with a completely different suspension design?
I follow and understand your point. The tj front is 1 1/8" diameter like the zj front iirc. The factoru zj front with poly bushings is enough at the height of my zj to feel tire roll long before any uncomfortable body roll. I can take offramps and feel more stable than my wife's stock quad cab dakota. I'm thinking some of that has to do with frame plating, steering brace and stout front bumper/ tie ins.
As far as his towing a trailer I'm not sure what a rear sway bar would accomplish unless his front bushings were lacking.

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Keep in mind I don't yet have the LA's out back.. but in my research i'v seen plenty of guys who are running one and found it beneficial. Keep in mind this isn't an all rock's build.

The guys who I have seen add a TJ swaybar are all guys with plenty of experience and knowledge, i'll trust their judgement that they found a need. I guess I'd just prefer to run one..

Borrowed pic of a bud's setup...

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