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post #1 of 11 Old 08-05-2009, 11:08 PM Thread Starter
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Road worthy steering setup w/ 5-6" lift

I am sitting at 3.5" lift on my 97 ZJ, this is my daily driver but I DEFINATELY wheel it when I get the chance. I will be installing a 5.5-6" long arm kit before too long and I will need to eliminate the inverted y-link setup thats on it, it just doesnt seem safe at all. My only problem is I cant seem to find an otk kit that doesnt use heim joints. I'd love to find a setup that still uses tre's. anyone have ideas on if I could custom make something or swap knuckles or what would be the safest most effective way to make steering at 6" of lift safe?


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post #2 of 11 Old 08-05-2009, 11:13 PM
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Jcr............
http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=S6

the inverted y set up is good up to 6". you can even make it highsteer.
http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/ind...roducts_id=306

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post #3 of 11 Old 08-05-2009, 11:22 PM Thread Starter
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I like the idea of the 1ton setup, having the Y link just scares me because of the higher angles of the drag link. I think if I ran any more lift when I droop the passenger side it will stress the TRE at the pitman arm. am I worrying over nothing or is this a good concern?

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I like the idea of the 1ton setup, having the Y link just scares me because of the higher angles of the drag link. I think if I ran any more lift when I droop the passenger side it will stress the TRE at the pitman arm. am I worrying over nothing or is this a good concern?
no, thats a true concern. if you plan to have a bunch of flex and dont want heims the OTK JCR steering is your set up. you will also need to swap to a double shear track bar. if you run a set up with a lower bracket like IROs conversion you can also run a DPA which will help with steering angles.

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post #5 of 11 Old 08-05-2009, 11:34 PM
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Or get the same tie rod flip insert for 18 bucks instead of 30:

http://www.goferitoffroad.com/products.htm

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Jcr............
http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=S6

the inverted y set up is good up to 6". you can even make it highsteer.
http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/ind...roducts_id=306

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thank you kindly sir

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post #7 of 11 Old 08-06-2009, 05:01 PM
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i had a hi-steer set up from down east offroad on my ZJ. It used WJ knuckles, and they were connected to a tie rod. The tie rod had a hole in it on the driver side, that the drag link connected to, so it didn't have the toe changes and issues that the y link set up has. Just like the JCR set up above. But since it used WJ knuckles, i had to raise the track bar mount on the axle as well, since the new location of the drag link was much higher than the old location with the stock ZJ spindles. It drove great at 5" of lift.

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i had a hi-steer set up from down east offroad on my ZJ. It used WJ knuckles, and they were connected to a tie rod. The tie rod had a hole in it on the driver side, that the drag link connected to, so it didn't have the toe changes and issues that the y link set up has. Just like the JCR set up above. But since it used WJ knuckles, i had to raise the track bar mount on the axle as well, since the new location of the drag link was much higher than the old location with the stock ZJ spindles. It drove great at 5" of lift.

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I did think about a WJ knuckle swap but didnt know much about it. Thanks for providing another option!

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post #9 of 11 Old 08-07-2009, 01:35 PM
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I don't think down east offroad is around anymore.. so probably not much help. I know there was some special spacers that had to be used, along with chevy S-10 brake calipers etc... so it wasn't cheap.

Here is the set up i did on my WJ i have right now..



track bar mount from TNT customs, flipped the drag link on top of knuckle mount with 1 ton chevy ends that have tons of angle for major droop, and left the factory tie rod (just replaced shaft with Kevin's HD). I will be flipping the tie rod as well.

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post #10 of 11 Old 08-07-2009, 05:36 PM
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the problem is that WJs have a different bolt pattern so you need to weld on spacers and drill out the rotors. trucks did it to their 5 grand cherokee project.

teraflex has a highsteer that replaces the knuckle, you can buy just the knuckle too
http://www.teraflex.biz/products/high-steer-system.html

KOR also has a good kit.
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/steeringupgrades.html

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post #11 of 11 Old 08-07-2009, 10:39 PM
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=809662

^^ read this thread. ^^

just tossing another idea out there for you

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