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Unread 12-19-2008, 12:31 PM   #46
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i'd want the RE for front and rear springs and the control arms. To get the IRO kit to compare to the RE kit it would cost $875 with no shocks. RE super-ride with adding their front track bar would be $895 with no shocks, plus looks like you get a little more like dissconnect adapters.

RE 3.5" Lift
RE1150 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS, ZJ REAR
RE1172 ~ DISCONNECT ADAPTERS TJ/ZJ 96+
RE1175 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS XJ/ZJ/TJ
RE1341 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" FRONT/PA
RE1343 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" REAR/PAI
RE1604 ~ TRACK BAR BRACKET, ZJ REAR
RE3705 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER FIXED
RE3720 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER ADJ
+
RE1600 ~ TRACK BAR, FRONT XJ/MJ/ZJ/TJ
= $895


IRO 3.5" Lift
3.5" Lift Front Coil Springs
Heavy Duty Double Shear Track Bar Conversion
Extended Front Sway Bar Links
Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
+
3.5" Lift Rear Coil Springs
+
B+C Custom Control Arms
+
Track Bar drop bracket
= $875

So...thats why

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Unread 12-19-2008, 12:41 PM   #47
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i'd want the RE for front and rear springs and the control arms. To get the IRO kit to compare to the RE kit it would cost $875 with no shocks. RE super-ride with adding their front track bar would be $895 with no shocks, plus looks like you get a little more like dissconnect adapters.

RE 3.5" Lift
RE1150 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS, ZJ REAR
RE1172 ~ DISCONNECT ADAPTERS TJ/ZJ 96+
RE1175 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS XJ/ZJ/TJ
RE1341 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" FRONT/PA
RE1343 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" REAR/PAI
RE1604 ~ TRACK BAR BRACKET, ZJ REAR
RE3705 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER FIXED
RE3720 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER ADJ
+
RE1600 ~ TRACK BAR, FRONT XJ/MJ/ZJ/TJ
= $895


IRO 3.5" Lift
3.5" Lift Front Coil Springs
Heavy Duty Double Shear Track Bar Conversion
Extended Front Sway Bar Links
Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
+
3.5" Lift Rear Coil Springs+
B+C Custom Control Arms
+
Track Bar drop bracket
= $875

So...thats why
Why would you need to buy rear 3.5" coil springs? It's a front to rear swap.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 12:43 PM   #48
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I know, but my front springs are sagging, and might as well replace them all and never have to worry about it
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Unread 12-19-2008, 12:47 PM   #49
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I know, but my front springs are sagging, and might as well replace them all and never have to worry about it
True and IRO has a warranty for sagging springs. So as long as you have them you'll never have to worry about it.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 01:27 PM   #50
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Well you dont technically need control arms for 3.5" so I personally would get the IRO without them and then get all adjustables when you want to go bigger. But whatever, they are both great kits and its whatever your preference is.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #51
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^ x2 save where you can cus you know you will have the urge. its inevitable.

and IRO doesnt warranty the springs. rough country does. just wanted to add that in there.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 02:44 PM   #52
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i'd want the RE for front and rear springs and the control arms. To get the IRO kit to compare to the RE kit it would cost $875 with no shocks. RE super-ride with adding their front track bar would be $895 with no shocks, plus looks like you get a little more like dissconnect adapters.

RE 3.5" Lift
RE1150 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS, ZJ REAR
RE1172 ~ DISCONNECT ADAPTERS TJ/ZJ 96+
RE1175 ~ SWAY BAR END LINKS XJ/ZJ/TJ
RE1341 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" FRONT/PA
RE1343 ~ COIL SPRINGS ZJ 3.5" REAR/PAI
RE1604 ~ TRACK BAR BRACKET, ZJ REAR
RE3705 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER FIXED
RE3720 ~ CONTROL ARM SR2 LOWER ADJ
+
RE1600 ~ TRACK BAR, FRONT XJ/MJ/ZJ/TJ
= $895


IRO 3.5" Lift
3.5" Lift Front Coil Springs
Heavy Duty Double Shear Track Bar Conversion
Extended Front Sway Bar Links
Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
+
3.5" Lift Rear Coil Springs
+
B+C Custom Control Arms
+
Track Bar drop bracket
= $875

So...thats why
Try IRO 3.5", $475. All you need. Almost half the price of RE.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 04:31 PM   #53
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I understand the initial price difference, but I added to the IRO kit to MATCH the RE kit to prove that they aren't THAT much in a price difference, if you were going to do what I'm going to do, which is do it all at once. I know the springs are warrented, which is awesome. But my STOCK springs are the ones sagging, hence the reason why I added the rear springs in the first place. Regardless of if I go with the IRO or the RE, it will be about a year before I could EVER afford to do either after lift, wheels, tires, etc. I've got to get through college first and get a good job going, because retail doesn't pay for crap.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 04:53 PM   #54
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front to rear is useless, get new springs. Your fronts will never match up nicely, as they have much more wear on them, and are of a different quality and spring rate.
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Unread 12-19-2008, 05:06 PM   #55
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even with only 69k on your jeep?
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Unread 12-19-2008, 05:23 PM   #56
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I understand the initial price difference, but I added to the IRO kit to MATCH the RE kit to prove that they aren't THAT much in a price difference, if you were going to do what I'm going to do, which is do it all at once. I know the springs are warrented, which is awesome. But my STOCK springs are the ones sagging, hence the reason why I added the rear springs in the first place. Regardless of if I go with the IRO or the RE, it will be about a year before I could EVER afford to do either after lift, wheels, tires, etc. I've got to get through college first and get a good job going, because retail doesn't pay for crap.
Yes, but you don't NEED everything that comes in the RE kit. Control arms I'm guessing is the biggest unnecessary expense. You definitely don't need them at 3.5"
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Unread 12-19-2008, 05:35 PM   #57
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front to rear is useless, get new springs. Your fronts will never match up nicely, as they have much more wear on them, and are of a different quality and spring rate.
A LOT of JF'ers have found the F>R to be extremely useful, especially on a budget. I'm planning on new rear springs at some point down the road, but a set of 3/4" spacers was a hell of a lot cheaper when I had just dropped ~$500 on a lift. I think it works just fine...
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Unread 12-20-2008, 01:58 AM   #58
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I guess my situation was different, I am living in a situation where i dont have the space or tools to do heavy mechanics on my jeep, so i had a suspension shop do it. While im paying someone to do it i wasn't going to go half way. Even if I wasn't paying anyone, i just dont see the point in putting coils you know you'll eventually want to switch out. I got all new rear coils from IRO for 100 flat if i remember correctly, and even then they had cheaper, check out their sales/misc section they sell OEM front coils (not used) there all the time, I think for 50 bucks... might as well get it with the kit as your paying for the shipping for everything else.

Just my opinion.
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Unread 12-20-2008, 07:53 AM   #59
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why would you ever feel the need to switch them out? the only reason i want to is because i would eventually like to go up to 5.5" but thats a big step that will take a long time to afford.

i guess in your situation i can see why you would but if someone is trying to do it on a budget it is an excellent alternative that will save you some dough.
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Unread 12-20-2008, 08:44 PM   #60
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when lifting a vehicle you need longer control arms to position your axle correctly. Starts at 3.5" to above. So yes, technically you can get away with not needing new control arms, but your axles will be slightly out of place , positioning it back a bit and creates bump steer, and a mess of other problems. So by updating your control arms, track bar, and maybe even your tie rod will help in preventing bump steer allow you to turn better. Not to mention that changing all the springs at the same time will be more convenient and a better ride. Not to say that IRO isn't a good kit, I just think RE is better, IMO. In the end, opinions of other people dont really matter, but I thought I would throw in a little fact to justify my reasoning a little more.
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