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post #1 of 14 Old 05-29-2003, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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2 pics of my friends with 265 75 r 16 tires
with only 2" tera spacers

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post #2 of 14 Old 05-29-2003, 10:54 AM
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Those pics dont do justice to his actual height of his ZJ. His metric tires are close to 32's and with that 5.2 V8 that thing is a Hoss

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those tires are actually bigger than bfgs 32s ( i checked their website for actual diamaters )
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questions

1) how wide are the tires? (don't know how to read that funky numbering crap)

2) does he rub in full turn or put steering stops on to prevent it?

3) does it rub when flexed? (i figure it must unless he extended the bumpstops)

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about 10.5 inches wide yes it rubs alot in turn and flex. he's getting wheel spacers and doing 4" lift but for those who just wanna look cool this does that well.
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So what you are saying is that it looks cool with bigger tires but drives like sh*t because he rubs everywhere.

Trimming and a lift would really help. Proper backspacing on the wheels would alleviate rubbing also.

If those tires are about 32s, did he regear? Even mall cruisers need power!


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he's not a mall cruiser he just prefers the art of muddin to real wheeling where tire size and wheel speed matter , he has 3.73 gearing, a cam , k&N filter charger and flow master cat back which is enough to spin all 4 tires on asphalt let alone in mud. he doesn't rub that often and the steering is corrected to where he no longer rubs turning. and like i said above its soon to be 4.5 inches of lift and he's getting wheel spacers cause he and i bot agree there isn't an after market wheel we've seen that looks decent on the zjs
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Well,

like I mentioned, if he wants to get more power, he should regear to 4.56s and then he'd be set.

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The websites differ on the tire sizes by as much as 1/2 inch.

The BFG book states the tire at 32.9 for the metric and the flotation series at 32.8

The website lists the metric at 32.7 so, when the tires are aired down, that .1 of an inch really doesn't matter.

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i'm not going to argue that but if you think you need 4.56 gears with the equvilent of 32 10.50s thats about insane... than when he drives on the interstate he'll have the allready gas guzzling 5.2 up in the 2500, 3000 rpm range???

granted i don't agree with his not so trail friendly choice of lift and tires 3.73 is plenty for a 32 maybe 4.11s but 4.56 is a little much, my roomate has 36s with 4.56 gearing and he cranks a good 2700 rpm at 65-70.

unless you have a 4 banger or a high reving 6 there is no reason to have much more than 4.11 with any tire under 33
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You'll find many other opinions besides yours and mine at www.nagca.com and www.jeepsunlimited.com about tire sizes and gearing.

I'm running 33s right now with 4.10s. 4.56s wouldn't be that bad at all.

Good luck to you and your buddy. I'm sure that everything will work out fine for him.


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i'm gonna ge 4.56 in mine because well its a 1999 cherokee 5 speed and it going to have 35s when my plan is finished but i can't imagine gears that low in an auto but i guess they have more of an over drive than the 5 speeds do don't they ?
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IF you are getting a 99 Cherokee and replacing gears, I'm sure that the guys on the cherokee page could help you better.

I went from 3.73s with 30s to 32s and lost all power and was running neat idle at 60. Every little incline caused the tranny to downshift and I used a lot of fuel.

I regeared to 4.10s and regained all the stock power. With 33s, the power is still there.


IF your buddy can spin all four 32s on dry pavement then, that is why his gas mileage is so poor. I'm getting 17 mpg on the interstate with my 33s.

When he is ready to talk about lifts, let me pm me and I'll help him out.


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Hunter may be right (I know, I'm pretty shocked too). I'm running 265/75/R16 BFG MT's on my WJ. It's got a 4.7 with an FIPK, and 3 inch exhaust from the Y pipe all the way back. While the FIPK and Kolak exhaust helped, my low end torque isn't great and I'm running about 13MPG with a good tail wind. I'm thinking that going 4.10 might be the way to go, but I hate to add new gears until I can add some traction adding devices as well.

I'm not sure how your friend thinks he's gonna do ANYTHING off pavement with only a BB. I rubbed a bit with my S4W with these tires with the factory bumper. IF he goes mudding and gets those wheels spinning and gets even a little articulation, he's gonna tear something up.

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ohh he doesn't and he knows it.
he's a good friend of mine and i had a sprungo over yj with 4.30 gearing and dual dana 44s but he died in an accident
now.... project xj. ( we have another friend with a sprungover yj and 4.56s ) and ths dude with the zj had a fj-40 with 4" lift and 33s before it.
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