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Unread 05-01-2013, 09:39 PM   #1
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Painting your Grille?

Has anyone here painted their grille? I've seen a few guys plasti-dip it and so I went ahead and did that myself. After about two weeks it started to peel. I believe it's from heat/wind along with the stupid chrome heat shrink (or whatever that crap is) that makes it so nothing can stick.

My question is, has anyone pulled that chrome stuff off? It looks like a film to me because I can see a few bubbles in mine. If I pull it off can I paint directly onto the grille beneath it? Will the paint stick and last?

If I were to paint it I would use rustoleum automotive primer (flat black) and then paint over it with rustoleum brand black paint.

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Unread 05-01-2013, 09:58 PM   #2
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i painted my ZJ like a wk2 trailhawk. did the grill grey with red mesh inserts. ill try to remember to get a picture tomorrow
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Unread 05-01-2013, 10:04 PM   #3
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i painted my ZJ like a wk2 trailhawk. did the grill grey with red mesh inserts. ill try to remember to get a picture tomorrow
Did you paint right on top of the chrome crap? It's so slick I'd be interested to know how you got the paint to stick?
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Unread 05-01-2013, 10:39 PM   #4
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Did you paint right on top of the chrome crap? It's so slick I'd be interested to know how you got the paint to stick?
no chrome on mine, its a limited so the grill was body color. isnt the chrome fake anyway? wont it just peel off?
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Unread 05-01-2013, 10:40 PM   #5
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Painted mine with duplicolor flat black for bumpers & trim..
All i did was wipe the chrome and sprayed right over top of it...it was pretty cold outside that day with snow still on the ground...
Turned out great, no peeling at all...
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Unread 05-01-2013, 10:45 PM   #6
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no chrome on mine, its a limited so the grill was body color. isnt the chrome fake anyway? wont it just peel off?
That's one of the things I asked in the original post. It is fake, it's POS Plastic with some chrome wrap **** on top. I believe I can just peel it off but I'm not sure what's underneath (A bit scared to look to be honest).
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Unread 05-01-2013, 10:46 PM   #7
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Painted mine with duplicolor flat black for bumpers & trim..
All i did was wipe the chrome and sprayed right over top of it...it was pretty cold outside that day with snow still on the ground...
Turned out great, no peeling at all...
Wipe the chrome as in wipe it with a cleaning/prepping solution like mineral oil and then washed it off (prepped it for paint)?
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #8
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That chrome is that plated crap. Buff it off now or it will peel off later
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:27 PM   #9
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There is no such thing as chrome plastic.....hell even twenty year old steel has trouble holding on to its chrome
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:35 PM   #10
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The Mylar (chrome) film isn't easy to remove, it's bonded to the grill with a very strong adhesive.

The best way I've found to make paint adhere is to scuff the surface with a Scotch Brite pad (or fine sandpaper) to dull the surface, then clean with mineral spirits, not mineral oil.

With paint, prime, then topcoat. I've never used plasti dip on "chromed" plastic before, so I don't know if priming is necessary with it or not. With spray on bedliner a primer coat gives better adhesion, so if it was me I would prime first.

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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:37 PM   #11
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Ha....his gc is at least 15 years old... Show me plasti chrome that holds up to a paint stripping wheel after 15 years.
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:38 PM   #12
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Nvm. It's 20 years old. That Mylar is dying to come off
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:41 PM   #13
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The Mylar (chrome) film isn't easy to remove, it's bonded to the grill with a very strong adhesive.

The best way I've found to make paint adhere is to scuff the surface with a Scotch Brite pad (or fine sandpaper) to dull the surface, then clean with mineral spirits, not mineral oil.

With paint, prime, then topcoat. I've never used plasti dip on "chromed" plastic before, so I don't know if priming is necessary with it or not. With spray on bedliner a primer coat gives better adhesion, so if it was me I would prime first.

Ken
Thanks. I mean't to say mineral spirits. I'm not going to use plasti dip on something that I want to last for a long time. I only plasti-dipped it in the first place because I wanted to see what it looked like before I made it permanent

Sounds like its not too hard to get some paint to adhere. I'll see if I can convince my girlfriend to sit outside with me this weekend and "tan" so I can do some painting
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:44 PM   #14
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I peeled of the chrome before painting my grille.

It had bubbles as you mentioned, I started there. Peeled from bubble first then soaked in brake fluid(I'm sure other chemicals work) made it easier to peel off. After all the chrome was off I washed it, sanded it, washed it again, let it dry and then painted it.
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Unread 05-01-2013, 11:47 PM   #15
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I peeled of the chrome before painting my grille.

It had bubbles as you mentioned, I started there. Peeled from bubble first then soaked in brake fluid(I'm sure other chemicals work) made it easier to peel off. After all the chrome was off I washed it, sanded it, washed it again, let it dry and then painted it.
I think I'll try to just scuff it up and make sure I let the primer really stick and dry and hope that works. Pulling off all off the wrap would not be on the top of my list of things that I want to do.

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