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Unread 03-02-2013, 12:04 AM   #16
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I was planning on doing the opposite of that, and having the front re-geared/strengthened to match the rear.

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Unread 03-02-2013, 12:15 AM   #17
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Hmm, interesting. I do like the Artec swap kit better, I'll have to call IRO and cancel my order first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for all the pics Kyboy, they gave me a good visual idea.
Jnicewan, what Ford car did you choose to get the pinion flange out of? Just curious for future ref. when I'm ready to install. Also can you elaborate on the break line tweaking?
Help is appreciated!
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Unread 03-02-2013, 06:31 AM   #18
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Well there really isn't much tweaking IMO. Just have to bend them around the brackets a little bit. Hell mine are strapped down in hidden locations with zip ties. I was able to reuse all my zj brake equipment as well.

The iro stuff is good stuff, it's less expensive but more measuring not a lot though. I got a great deal on my artec kit as it was one of the first runs of the truss. Can't go wrong either way you go IMO

And what were you going to strengthen your front to match, the d35????? If you're talking about matching to the 8.8 you put in, then that could be good. Mine is factory front cv axles but 4.56s to match and Detroit trutrac.
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Unread 03-02-2013, 10:56 AM   #19
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My plan is to get a 4.10 8.8 and find a HP30 out of a 4cyl cherokee with 4.10s. Swap em in at the same time.
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Unread 03-02-2013, 04:46 PM   #20
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To Kyboy- Well that's a load off my chest as far as the brake part...Worried about the trac bar now. Only because I'd rather replace it while I'm under there. And yes I am talking about matching the front to the 8.8
1stblack97ZJ- Read your build, Good looking ZJ, sucks about the engine though.
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Unread 03-02-2013, 05:36 PM   #21
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I'm just gonna stick with the 3.73 right now 4.10 would be nice though
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Unread 03-03-2013, 06:54 AM   #22
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I'm using my factory tracbar artec has a 2 hole design to allow for lifted vehicles and non lifted. If your bushings are shot maybe you could just replace them instead?
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Unread 03-03-2013, 09:55 AM   #23
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I did read about the 2 hole design, but I just like replacing parts in my jeep, hence the name of my post! Haha, I dunno I might not touch it I'll see what kind of condition it's in when I'm under there.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 09:47 PM   #24
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After an hour 1/2 long drive to South Jersey I got my 8.8 . It's a little rusty but I'm gonna polish it up
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Unread 03-03-2013, 09:48 PM   #25
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Oh yeah, came w/ free drive shaft! Kinda didn't want it on there though, extra work.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 10:01 PM   #26
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Jnicewan, what Ford car did you choose to get the pinion flange out of? Just curious for future ref. when I'm ready to install. Also can you elaborate on the break line tweaking?
Help is appreciated!
The flange I used came off either a late 90's c-vic or town car. I didnt measure it before snagging it but I had heard almost all ford cars and most rangers used the same u-joint. My jeep had a new u-joint in it so all I did was press the ford pinion flange on the existing u-joint and put 2 new clips on and was GTG.

edit: oops, just noticed this was already answered, but here it is again. The tweaking of the brake lines was basically bending them slightly around the brackets to prevent rubbing stuff and placing them in a secure spot. Its pretty easy to see what you need to do once you start putting the lines on.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 06:48 AM   #27
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Oh yeah, came w/ free drive shaft! Kinda didn't want it on there though, extra work.
It's 4 bolts man

Plus, you can have that drive shaft modified and you're at the stock diameter rather than fighting the shop like I am that wanted to make me a 2" fricking shaft...trust me, DO NOT drop down in diameter of the shaft no matter what anyone tells you. I've spoke to Tom Woods directly on this matter, and he very strongly suggest to go with factory diameter if not slightly larger for anything that will be a daily drive rig.

If you drop in diameter, up your gearing, you're looking at bringing down that location of the rotational harmonics of the drive shaft that ALL have. Once a ZJ is lifted this also brings that number down...

so please heed the warning, stock diameter or larger and you'll be much happier, otherwise you'll be in my position and chasing a vibe for 2 years that could have been prevented.

BTW, yours looks in better shape than mine did when I brought it home! Nothing a grinder, wire wheel, and metal flap disc won't cure.
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Unread 03-05-2013, 08:18 AM   #28
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thanks for the heads up! and yea its gonna get cleaned up and painted soon!
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Unread 03-05-2013, 03:46 PM   #29
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You can sort of see how my brake lines had to be rebent....nothing too bad
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Unread 03-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #30
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oh yeah wow, pictured it a lot more complex, Thanks! nice pic btw
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