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post #1 of 26 Old 09-11-2010, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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Old Man Emu Lift Questions

I was wondering if anyone has installed OME coils on their ZJ, if so how much lift did you gain? Did you use MD or the HD coils? I had OME on my KJ and I know they say its a 2-2.25" lift but I gained 3", I would really like to get some 33's on the ZJ.

Sorry I know these are newbie questions, and also what the max size of tire Id be able to stuff in with the OME coils and with trimming the fenders? I need an adjustable control arm, anything else? What if I threw in one of the .75" Coil Spring Isolators/ spacers?

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post #2 of 26 Old 09-11-2010, 10:58 PM
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I have the HD coils on one of my ZJs and my net lift is 2.5".

If you want to fit 33" tires, you'll want a lift designed for max travel - that means a taller spring than the OME.

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What if I bought a 2" spacer and cut it down a little or non at all. Im really wanting OME bc Ive had them before and know they are some of the best out there.


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While we're on this topic, does anyone know how much lift the MD coils give?
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I run the OME HD coils and Kolak is right, they net around 2.5". I am running 32's (255/75R17) and have adjustable control arms so they sit in the wheel wells correctly and I can stuff them up in the wheel wells really well. 33's will work with adjustable CA's but you won't have much uptravel and will have to bump stop quite a bit to keep from bashing your quarters. 245/75R16s are probably the best size for this lift, but I don't wheel mine that hard as it's my DD.

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I run the OME HD coils and Kolak is right, they net around 2.5". I am running 32's (255/75R17) and have adjustable control arms so they sit in the wheel wells correctly and I can stuff them up in the wheel wells really well. 33's will work with adjustable CA's but you won't have much uptravel and will have to bump stop quite a bit to keep from bashing your quarters. 245/75R16s are probably the best size for this lift, but I don't wheel mine that hard as it's my DD.
Do you have some pics of yours? Would I have better chances of fitting 33s if I dome OME HD and then 1 or 2 spring isolators?

And is that all I would need? Coils, shocks and adjustable CA's?


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I can't disagree that the OME springs are excellent quality, but there are other springs on the market that will give you equivalent quality with the proper amount of lift you need to fit your tires. I also assume that if you're fitting 33" tires you want a lift that gives you proper up and downtravel for maximum flex - a taller spring will do a much better job of that vs. a shorter spring with spacers.

PM me if you'd like to put together a lift - I have everything you need available in terms of high quality adjustable control arms, trackbars, disconnects, shocks, etc.

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Do you have some pics of yours? Would I have better chances of fitting 33s if I dome OME HD and then 1 or 2 spring isolators?

And is that all I would need? Coils, shocks and adjustable CA's?

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How is IRO coils compared to OME HD in terms of spring rate? Because I tend to haul and tow alot and plan on building a hefty bumper and add a winch so I dont want any sagging.


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Kolak knows what's up, awesome knowledge in that man! I built my lift for a great ride and to tow with. I don't wheel it much so uptravel wasn't too much of a concern of mine, but I do have a fair bit of downtravel as my shocks are for a 3.5" lift. It rides great, handles well and looks exactly how I want it to (well it will after the ARB is installed). Here's a couple pics.


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Kolak knows what's up, awesome knowledge in that man! I built my lift for a great ride and to tow with. I don't wheel it much so uptravel wasn't too much of a concern of mine, but I do have a fair bit of downtravel as my shocks are for a 3.5" lift. It rides great, handles well and looks exactly how I want it to (well it will after the ARB is installed). Here's a couple pics.

Looks great! I'd throw some 1.5" spacers on there to give it a little more aggressive stance, but other than that I love it.

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I put on the OME HD springs a little while back and I love the ride. Throw on a set of flares from Iceland Offroad and I bet you won't even need spacers for 33's.
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Looks great! I'd throw some 1.5" spacers on there to give it a little more aggressive stance, but other than that I love it.
Thanks!
It already has spacers though as you need adapters to convert the bolt patter for the JK Moabs. I think it sits perfect, right at the edge of the wheel well.

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Thanks!
It already has spacers though as you need adapters to convert the bolt patter for the JK Moabs. I think it sits perfect, right at the edge of the wheel well.
Oops, didn't catch that they were JK Moabs last night when I posted that.

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ok sorry for all of the newbie annoying questions but....what if I buy the IRO 3.5" Foundation lift and it looks like it does the F>R, so could I do OME coils F>R and use the IRO coils with a .75" spacer to make it level? Or will I be too high in the rear still?


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That sounds like a recipe for poor ride quality and a very unpredictable net lift height result.

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ok sorry for all of the newbie annoying questions but....what if I buy the IRO 3.5" Foundation lift and it looks like it does the F>R, so could I do OME coils F>R and use the IRO coils with a .75" spacer to make it level? Or will I be too high in the rear still?

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