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Unread 04-04-2011, 09:43 PM   #1
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Noise when turning left

My 96 ZJ makes a noise when I turn all the way to the left. Normally it's fine, just when I turn almost to the end of it's range.
I can turn right the same amount, but no noise.

It's a low sounding noise and sounds the same if I'm sitting still or moving.

The previous owner had a good bit of front end work done and I don't see anything obvious.
New belt, PS pump is fine.

Sounds like it's comming from the left front wheel.

I'm pretty sure I read a thread about this once, but can't find it.
Searching "noise" on a Jeep site gets tons of results.

Anyone have an idea what's making this noise?

Thanks

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Unread 04-05-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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need more info
describe the noise (more than "low")

what transfer case do you have?
etc,.....
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Unread 04-05-2011, 10:16 AM   #3
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Let's see.............

Well all stock, no lift, 4.0 IL 6, auto. TC is 231 I'm pretty sure (2 wd, part time, 4 high, 4 low). Tires are 253/70/15.

The noise sounds like low creaking, pretty loud, comming from axle area on left side, only when wheel is tuned left. Allignment is fine.

Hope that helps.
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Sounds like wheel bearing/hub
And you have a 242 case.
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Unread 04-05-2011, 10:47 AM   #5
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you say this happens while sitting still? parked? I would just say its the power steering pump moaning. You are probably just hitting the steering stop and you can turn the wheel just a little more working the pump. Ugh, I will edit, I gotta go outside and check I can't remember if you can adjust the steering stops or not.

EDIT: Yes you can adjust them, they are on the opposite side of the caliper.
Here is a pic of the steering stop.


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Unread 04-05-2011, 10:56 AM   #6
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OK I found and read the "Suggested Threads" below this reply box. Not sure if they answer my question tho. lol

To describe the noise better.....
I do not have to be moving to hear it, and it's a growl or rub sound. (Too bad we can't post sound bytes)

Thanks speedbucket..... Would a bearing do this? I get no noise any other time when steering. It just happens making a tight turn like when you make a U-turn.

Saw something about CV joints on a thread for the same model, but I never saw a boot on mine.
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Thanks 98mopar but it's not that sound. That's a noise I know.
Only happens turning left also.
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Thanks 98mopar but it's not that sound. That's a noise I know.
Only happens turning left also.
Both sides get adjusted. You mentioned a lot of front end work went into it. If the sound occurs while sitting still, you have no moving parts in you drive train, it would not be a cv axle, it is not rotating. The only thing that could make a noise with out moving would be your pump. Unless you are hearing a pop sound. Which you are not.
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yes ,cvs pop or click when they start to go.
didn't realize it happens when your sitting still too
maybe a dry ball joint?
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Unread 04-05-2011, 11:10 AM   #10
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Ahhhhhhh cool....... Thanks for the pic 98mopar.

After thinking about it, that might be it. Now that the rain has stopped I can look. Guess I'll just compare to the right side.
My thought is that the mechanic who did the front end work for the previous owner never adjusted it.

The biggest reason I want to know is I have a donor vehicle right now and if there's something I can grab off it before I have to get rid of it I will.

Thanks speedbucket............. That may be it too.... lol
Is there a way to see if the balljoint is dry besides adding grease?
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Unread 04-05-2011, 11:28 AM   #11
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not really
put the front axle on jack stands with the ignition on(not running,just so steering wheel doesn't lock) and you can investigate by pushing the wheel back and forth to simulate turning, you may be able to locate it better, but the weight wont be on the ball joints so you may not beable to tell
but it think its worth a shot
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Unread 04-05-2011, 11:29 AM   #12
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If the sound happens when you turn left, I would get under there and have a friend turn the wheel and rock it slightly back and forth and see if the left wheel stops before the right one. The left turn adjustment will be on the right (passenger) steering knuckle.
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Unread 04-05-2011, 12:31 PM   #13
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are your control arms tight? when you turn the axle wants to go side to side.. if the bolts arent tight they will slide on the bolt ever so slightly.. believe found out the hard way ha.. also does it make the noise constantly when you turn? u say it does it when not moving.. that would help identify if its the pump or not better
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Unread 04-05-2011, 01:07 PM   #14
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Thanks mrfister11 I'll check the control arms.

Only hear it when wheel is turned to the left.
Just in the last 1/2 turn.
It's not completely turned all the way for it to make noise and there's still a bit more it will turn.

No sound turning right and I can turn the same amount either to the left or right, just makes that noise at the end of the range to the left.

Unless Jeep PS pumps sound different from others, it dosen't seem to be the pump.
If it's the pump I would get noise both ways right?

Sounds like a creaking old boat or like something is gonna fall off. Low pitched groaning. Will hear it stopped or moving.
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Unread 04-05-2011, 01:10 PM   #15
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im 80% sure its control arm bushings.. if you can get two ppl.. lay under neath and hold on to either control arms and feel it while someone turns it..dont know why it would only do it turning left..
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