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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:24 PM   #16
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I think those bolts are 15mm, maybe 16mm.
Any idea of required torque ob the bolts? May as well do a torque check while I'm in there

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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:32 PM   #17
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I honestly don't remember the torque. As tight as you can get it with a wrench, then a bit tighter.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:42 PM   #18
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found a thread on it. 55 ft/lbs for 4 bolt or 40 ft/lbs for 3 bolt

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...sprint-730427/
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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:52 PM   #19
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That sounds about right. I usually don't torque them, I'll just put two wrenches together (to give me more leverage) and tighten them as tight as I can go. On some cars, there's just not enough room to get the torque wrench in there.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 11:49 PM   #20
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Got thinking, it wouldnt be the tourque converter if it stops when the engine warms up would it? say once i get up around 100 degrees it stops altogether. wether i am driving or idle. only happens to a cold engine
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Unread 01-05-2013, 05:01 PM   #21
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so update, finaly got a buddy to help me isolate the noise. We shifted into reverse then back into park and the other person was down under listening. we isolated the noise to the starter. putting our hands on and around that rea, the vibrations and noises were soley coming from the starter. so all we could come up with is that maybe the starter is staying out and engaging the fly wheel, but i changed the starter out to no avail. and doesnt explain why it slows down, then eventually stops, as the vehicle warms up. any ideas? i am still looking for the cover to be able to look in at the torque converter, havent found it yet.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 07:01 PM   #22
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Mack , that sounds an awful lot like the cooling fan hitting the shroud . Had this happen once when I had a bad motor mount . Check out the edges or even the clearances not running .
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:19 PM   #23
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Mack , that sounds an awful lot like the cooling fan hitting the shroud . Had this happen once when I had a bad motor mount . Check out the edges or even the clearances not running .
But sounds arent coming from the front. It comes from down under the engine. So when I crawl under while buddy puts it in gear then back into park it starts to rattle and it is definitely coming from the starter. And once the engine is warm the rattle stops. When engine is cold it rattles when taken out of gear, and when it is given gas, idle or moving... so confused. I will double check fan and shroud tomorrow just incase for sure
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:26 PM   #24
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If not that , I'd check the bellhousing bolts . Has it ever been apart ?
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:32 PM   #25
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If not that , I'd check the bellhousing bolts . Has it ever been apart ?
No. Only ever droppeed trans enough to get tcase on and off. Almost thinking I should just to take a look
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:42 PM   #26
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It's a weird noise for sure . If you can't find it , I wouldn't mind stopping by for a look . I'm working in the city at the new Rec center on 17st and 23rd ave . We could meet up any evening after 3:30 .
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Unread 01-05-2013, 09:32 PM   #27
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It's a weird noise for sure . If you can't find it , I wouldn't mind stopping by for a look . I'm working in the city at the new Rec center on 17st and 23rd ave . We could meet up any evening after 3:30 .
Yeah sounds good. I live up on the base in the north end. I will pm you my contact info
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Unread 01-06-2013, 11:56 AM   #28
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Be sure to post back what it is, I'm curious to know.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 12:01 PM   #29
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Still unsure of the issue. Below -15º and you turn the key nothing at all happens, and I have to start it with screwdriver by touching both terminals together in the starter. Any warmer then that it will either start up fine or fight a bit. Going to install new starter solenoid and see of that for some reason helps.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 01:16 PM   #30
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Is the flywheel loose. Dont know if thats even possible but it goes hand and hand with the starter...
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