@kensnelling (and others) all MO Hy-Vee gas station's Premium (only) has no Ethanol. I have done calcs and we definitely get more value from it than Ethanol fuels. Plus I am so happy to have for my small engines.
Probably wouldn't do much in the Prius. Newer vehicles don't seem to mind the ethanol as much. In reading some other posts about fuel additives and detergents and the top tier fuel recommendations there's a lot to consider on the topic. I typically use Shell most often. Just got the 5.2 XJ in January. Bought it on Empty, and it's a Limited so full console readouts on instantaneous MPG as well as averages, the previous owner had a 3000+ mile average going of 16.2. I reset it immediately and filled up with a local E0 station...about 16.7 mpg (granted we were experiencing FRIGID COLD temps in TN, and lost several points for letting it warmup 15+ min on those mornings.) Jeep needed a few things, so did oil change and tune up (plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor button with new oil and air filters). Put Shell gas in (87 octane, presumably E10) and got about the same 16.8 or so. ran about 3 tanks of shell in the same range mpg. Added some Gumout complete fuel system cleaner and ran the local E0 in it again. full tank got me 400+ miles and read out about 18 on the in car average, but my mileage app, and hand calculations actually put me at 19.9! Just had new hub bearings put on the front with new axles, replaced the radiator and thermostat as it had been running cold (about 155) and valve cover gasket as it was leaking a bit of oil. On my second tank of Shell since those changes and getting 17-17.5 right now. I do semi-highway driving, it's mostly to work and back about 30 miles 1 way, half is interstate, half is back country roads, no stop and go but VERY hilly and curvy. Gas on outskirts of town is about 3.20, in town where I work and where is most often the convenient place to fill up its been about 3.35, the E0 is 3.55, maybe 10% more if you compare it with the 3.20 I'd have to go out of my way to get. but 19.9 compared to the 16.7 is about 19% increased in MPG, WAY less cost per mile. I'll update once I have the chance to run a full tank of E0 after the hubs/axles/radiator/valve cover gasket work.
Do you guys typically use any fuel additives regularly who strictly use the E0? just curious since most E0 wouldn't contain the detergents and things advertised in the "Top-tier" gas that is E10 if there are things you like (stp red bottle, gumout octane, or the occasional full fuel system cleaners) that you find worth it as well?
Wow, that's ridiculous. Yea that wouldn't be with it at that markup...like I said this is my first jeep, but had a few 2000 and older gm trucks/SUVs and seemed to be pretty common for me to see 10-20% increase in mileage, and seeing about that so far.
I run E free 93 in the niner. It's pretty easy to find in SW VA.
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Kind of a weird thing here where I live. The station where I buy my fuel is ethanol free in all grades, the station directly across the street sells ethanol gas in it's "super" gas which is always priced the same as the regular fuel I buy.
The pumps there I buy have no notification of ethanol added on them. Just the opposite across the street. The ethanol added station always has more vehicles at their pumps, or so it seems when I drive by. I wonder why that is?
The ethanol added station always has more vehicles at their pumps, or so it seems when I drive by. I wonder why that is?
most people don't care if it runs worse off of it, all they see is that it is cheaper, but it is a short term gain because they will have to fill up more. the only thing i do is every once in a while i will run some lucas through the system.