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Unread 11-22-2008, 05:58 AM   #31
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Interesting setup. Could have used airbags with the 1000 lbs of shingles I hauled yesterday. That switch does spark some interest. Your 2 wd will go alot of places with a rear locker.

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Unread 11-23-2008, 06:09 PM   #32
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as to the locker...
would it be bad if i hit the switch to the ON position while, lets say, driving fast on the freeway?
anyone, please?
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Unread 11-23-2008, 07:30 PM   #33
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Well I have no experience with lockers, but I would think it could do some some major damage. I think you would hear it if you did it and it did damage.
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Unread 11-23-2008, 07:38 PM   #34
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anyone, please?

if i'm not mistaken and i don't have one but from what i understand about lockers especially air, is you must be stopped and when you turn it would cause both wheels to lock and you wouldn't be able to turn almost at all, but since it's in the rear it would act like a spool and you would have to break the tires a bit when you turn. not good on the axle and especially if you have a 35c rear end i wouldn't use it unless you have too. is your ride a v8 and what years?
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Unread 11-23-2008, 07:57 PM   #35
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if i'm not mistaken and i don't have one but from what i understand about lockers especially air, is you must be stopped and when you turn it would cause both wheels to lock and you wouldn't be able to turn almost at all, but since it's in the rear it would act like a spool and you would have to break the tires a bit when you turn. not good on the axle and especially if you have a 35c rear end i wouldn't use it unless you have too. is your ride a v8 and what years?
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i drove into some mud yesterday with one wheel and without the button stepped on the gas and the one wheel was spinning while the other wanted to grab the road, then with the button turned on i did the same and both wheels acted the same way and out the mud we went...
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Unread 11-23-2008, 08:08 PM   #36
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Definitely a locker then. Nice upgrade!! Wish I had one in mine.
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Unread 11-23-2008, 09:02 PM   #37
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Lockers should not be used on pavement. not your type anywhy. you have a selectable locker. and It will only make handling worse on wet pavement and add exccesive rear tire ware, not to mention a d35c is not set up to handle that appication well. and sure, a full time locker like power tracks lock-rite will ratch/override and alow for cornering to prevent what I have stated, but selectables do not! both axles are locked together and tires will not turn at differnt speeds when cornering. and as stated before MOST selectables will not allow you to engage above a certain speed. seriously, the only time you should use it on the road is if you cant make it without, i.e snow . off pavement no problem.
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Unread 11-23-2008, 09:15 PM   #38
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I dont understand the whole airbag switch with the PSI monitor. Airbags as suspension airbags or airbags as the ones that deploy in a car accident?
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Unread 11-23-2008, 10:00 PM   #39
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suspension airbags...they sit inside the springs.
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Unread 11-23-2008, 10:04 PM   #40
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Lockers should not be used on pavement. not your type anywhy. you have a selectable locker. and It will only make handling worse on wet pavement and add exccesive rear tire ware, not to mention a d35c is not set up to handle that appication well. and sure, a full time locker like power tracks lock-rite will ratch/override and alow for cornering to prevent what I have stated, but selectables do not! both axles are locked together and tires will not turn at differnt speeds when cornering. and as stated before MOST selectables will not allow you to engage above a certain speed. seriously, the only time you should use it on the road is if you cant make it without, i.e snow . off pavement no problem.
reason i asked is because the swtich is right there next to the gear shifter and the passanger side, and if by accident the switch was hit i wanted to know what would happen, not me turning it ON on purspose for no reason....

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I dont understand the whole airbag switch with the PSI monitor. Airbags as suspension airbags or airbags as the ones that deploy in a car accident?
suspension airbags to lift the back end while towing....
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Unread 11-23-2008, 10:30 PM   #41
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IF you are on the road and it happens, you probably wont even notice until you turn hard, like left or right on a street, or in a parking lot, you will feel the back wheels hopping and jerking as when you turn left lets say, your in board tire follows a shorter path , thus with an open diff it would allow left to turn at a slower rate, where a locker locks both sides together and the inboard tire will break traction and hopp due to the tourqe applied evenly to both tires, that is why you will ware the tires rapidly and it puts excess ware on the drive train. you will also notice that if you are on the skinny pedel and turn when it is wet you will have the *** end kick out, in stead of just one tire breaking loose as an open diff would, a locker they both will. bottom line is nothing detramental should happen. just turn it off as soon as you notice it, and you will ,like i said, turning.
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Unread 11-23-2008, 10:41 PM   #42
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cool, thanks...
i was going to make something to go over the switch so it can't be pressed by mistake... but haven't given too much thought to what it would be...
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Unread 11-24-2008, 12:01 AM   #43
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cool, thanks...
i was going to make something to go over the switch so it can't be pressed by mistake... but haven't given too much thought to what it would be...
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062493

how about this? thats what i would do
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Unread 11-24-2008, 02:05 AM   #44
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it wont hurt anything. but to minamize tire wear and retain good street manners the locker shouldnt be enguaged on pavement.
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Unread 11-24-2008, 10:06 AM   #45
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After reading this thread it seems to there is too much concern about the locker engaging during some street driving. It is a concern because if it activates at the wrong time (say on a curved overpass in the rain) then you could end up having the rear end slip out a bit. If you can't compensate by counter-steering then you will be in big trouble.

I however would not worry about it.... just keep your hands away from the switch until you really need it. I've owned two auto lockers in the past and have not had any problems with them at all - even though they have locked up unexpectedly just like the situation above.

I had a full detroit in my discovery and now have a powertrax no slip in my ZJ. Both have worked phenomenally off road and were well behaved on road (except when you make hard turns or u-turns or back out of a parking spot while turning the wheel all the way.) Then you'll hear some wierd stuff from the detroit but the no-slip is much quiter. Anyway, enjoy the locker dude! If you have good traction tires for offroad - Like BFG mud terrains and a lift, you will likely be able to punish most un-locked 4x4s out there. My buddies are locked as am I and we have lots of fun messing around in 2WD... hell, we've gotten many open-diffed 4x4s out of mudholes and other obstacles in 2WD!!! Having a locker is a HUGE advantage and I'll take it in a 2WD rear end over an open-diffed 4x4 anyday. This is all hypothetical of course as in reality I would buy the 4x4 and within a week or two get the locker installed in it!! Happy wheeling in your 2WD... you'll be surprised at what your vehicle is capable of vs. open diffed 4x4s (provided that the driver you compete with is not too advanced of course.)
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