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Unread 07-25-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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My build: 95 5.2L ZJ

I'm a new member here, not new to the site though.
Recently purchased my first ZJ. (About a month ago)
It's a 1995 Grand Cherokee Limited with a few quirks here and there and could use some TLC and the right touch, but I love her!


I bought it for several reasons:
1. I am a Mopar/Jeep lover!
2. I am very passionate about off roading and rock crawling.
3. It was the right vehicle for the cash.
4. It already had a 4" lift and 33" Boggers.
5. I am having my first child in September, so I needed a more "family friendly car".
6. I love the paint!
Here are a few more pics of the Jeep after I got it home.
This is a spot a buddy and I go to, this is in the dried up lake bed.

This is a pic with my buddy and his TJ, modded out the wazoo.

This is after the play time. This baby can crawl through some mud, I was very impressed.


So my original idea was to buy all these parts and stuff and lift it 2 more inches and put all adjustable control arms and HD track bars, tie rod, and drag link on it, among other things that would cost a crap ton of dough...

Then I snapped out of it!
Just because I'm working all this overtime and saving all this extra cash (for the baby and the Jeep) doesn't mean that I have to go and blow it all on over priced parts that I also have to pay SHIPPING for!?!?

Now that I've wised up and realized the error of my ways I know what I must do. "Build it and they will come." He said.
So the plan is...
DANA 60's, 35's, not quite sure what gear ratio yet (still want to keep it street legal), custom built long arms, custom sub frame (unibody stiffener), custom rock sliders, custom bumpers, custom cross members, and custom skid plates... there's more to it but I'm kinda getting tired of typing CUSTOM.


This is somewhat similar to what I want to do with the ZJ, except the exo cage, and ignore the fact that the vehicle in the pic is a WJ.

Or this sweet WJ that Rock Ware built for King of the Hammers.

So with all that being said, this marks the beginning of a long build thread with not much progress being made very quickly. BUT, there will be lots of pics!

On a side note, I'm trying to talk my girl into getting a Liberty. She wants a BRAND NEW EVERYTHING, and we can't afford that kind of payment (and I don't really like newer cars). Anyways, she wants a newer Liberty or Commander or Patriot... blah blah blah. (At least they are all JEEPS!) I want the older Liberty so I can turn it into this!

I think she'd love driving it and it would be something else I could take off road...

Thanks for reading hope you check in again when there is more progress.

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Unread 07-25-2013, 01:20 PM   #2
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Sweet jeep man! Is that flat black paint, or is it completely plastidipped?
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Unread 07-25-2013, 01:30 PM   #3
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Thank you very much and its flat black paint.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 01:52 PM   #4
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I have a few questions for anyone who reads this. I believe it is part of the vacuum system but who knows?!
What is this and what is it for? (Located on back side of driver side valve cover)

What is this and what is it for? (Located behind passenger side valve cover, has a vacuum looking line that goes to the throttle body)

What part am I missing? I believe one of those lines is the low pressure line to the fire wall and the other goes to the compressor.

What is SAM HILL is this and what is IT for? (Located behind bumper, under head light on driver side, it sticks out from behind the bumper at the bottom too. It is a big cylinder)


And this is just a pic of me I accidently took while snooping around my wheel well, I saw it when I was uploading the pics.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 04:08 PM   #5
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first pic is the vapor canister purge valve, dont ask me what it does because i dont know. second pic is the transducer for the EGR.
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Unread 08-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #6
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So recently I have been having issues with my ZJ stalling when I stop at a light. Looked around and saw the Dirty Dozen thread. Lots of very good information in there and saw the ECM fix (zip ties/hose clamp). So I went out and got a hose clamp big enough to go around my ECM. Came back, took out my ECM and cleaned it up a bit, it had a lot of dirt from the last time I had went out on the trail with it.






Reinstalled it with the hose clamp on and took it for a test drive. Nothing changed... still stalling, after the jeep warms up, when I come to a stop. Maybe I didn't clean the contacts well enough or not enough contact grease. Keep in mind, mine is a 95 and has the one big connector with the bolt and it seemed to have pretty good contact before and after I cleaned it, so maybe its a bad ECM. I'm not sure but I figure I will just keep going down the list until my problem is solved. I do think I have a vacuum leak though, No real evidence other than my intake is pretty dirty on the inside, I have a slight ticking noise, and it is on the list.


I would like to order that Hughes Engines aluminum belly pan and gasket just so that I know I have a better piece, it will last longer, I will of known when it was replaced, and I would like to do the KEG mod to the intake. (Has anyone here done the KEG mod on their ZJ? If so, how does it run now, better or worse or what?) But I'm not going to skip down the list to it just to do it and see if that's the problem.
Well that is about all the updates I have for now. Trying to get as much done as I can before the baby comes next month.
Still looking for axles. I have a buddy, the guy with the TJ in the pics from before, that is going to help me put together the axles and work on doing my custom 4 link for it. I'm excited but I know this will be a long build. Ha Ha.
Take it easy guys and gals. Hope to get some help and shed some light on this project.

OH ALSO, my fuel gauge goes in and out of working, the needle raises and drops when it wants, not a lot but it does. It is really hard to tell when I actually am empty or not. And my oil pressure gauge says its at max pressure!?! But my oil level isn't high... Help on that stuff would be nice. Another this is the shifter, it seems to have play in it. Like when I go from Park to Drive I have to go past Drive and give it a light push back into Drive, same with Reverse. Strange huh? Any ideas on that would be awesome too!!!

Thanks again
Eric
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Unread 08-06-2013, 11:40 PM   #7
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try cleaning the IAC valve. thats the sensor lookin thing at the back of the throttle body. theres a write up in the FAQs
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Unread 08-07-2013, 12:26 AM   #8
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Cool, yeah. I read a little about that too. I'll have to get my butt in gear and start working on this jeep more often.
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Unread 08-07-2013, 01:52 AM   #9
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If it just sputters out I would say its the IAC/Throttlebody or fuel pump related. If it completely dies as if you turned the key off then I would say your Crank sensor is on its way out or bad ground somewhere.
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Unread 08-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #10
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There is a lot of info on the kegger mod with the Dodge guys http://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen-...e-mod-diy.html


http://dodgeforum.com/forum/tags/kegger.html
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Unread 08-07-2013, 10:50 AM   #11
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Thanks!
Yeah I have read through one thread on how to do the kegger mod. Seemed pretty straight forward and easy but not particularly sure if I would want to attempt it with the stock intake or go find another at a junk yard.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 06:00 PM   #12
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Here's a little update.
Couple days ago went and had the ZJ aligned. Not sure when the last time it was done and I have a mild case of the death wobbles, figured it could only help.
Turns out my toe was set way in! Well I kind of figured that cause I noticed that my tie rod had a good bend in it that I didn't remember seeing before the last time I went wheeling. So that was all squared away and they got me set up all good and straight. Actually did help the get rid of some of the death wobble, not all. So then I leave and drive home... Now, I don't live all that far from the shop I went to, but by the time I had got home (10 to 15 mins) my jeep was starting to over heat and I had noticed a good amount of squealing and some smoke. I pulled into my drive way, killed the jeep, and popped the hood. Steam cam shooting out of the radiator cap and the sound of bubbling came from my over flow container. (I thought the fluid was actually BOILING, but it was just hot air coming through the hose cause the over flow was completely full.

SOOO. Using my deductive reasoning, I am pretty darn sure that my water pump is kaput! I pulled it into the garage after letting sit a bit and tried to wiggle the fan and check if the pulley was not tracking right. Everything seems to be ok and I couldn't recreate the squealing sounds... I don't and I don't really want to pull the pump if I don't have to but I probably should. Anyways, So I had noticed that there was a slight play in the steering still after the alignment and I had ordered a new steering stabilizer just in case this was the situation (plus a second one from even more stability!) from IRO. Bam, put those babies on... the steering is quite a bit stiffer now. Not saying that is a bad thing. And it did help with the wobble also. So that's cool now. Still a little play when going over 50, but I don't drive in too many areas where the speed limit is over 45. Should be good from now till I get around to checking other parts of the suspension.
That's all I got I think.
Thanks for reading.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 06:07 PM   #13
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With two steering stabilizers and turning large tires, your steering box will hate its life. If all your tie rod ends are good and your steering components are aligned correctly, you shouldn't need one stabilizer at all. Might I suggest a remanned waggy box and a steering brace.

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Unread 08-10-2013, 06:22 PM   #14
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I have heard about swapping out the steering gear with a wagon one. What do you mean by steering brace though. Only thing is that I plan on going to hydro assist steering when I swap over to my Dana 60's and run 35" tires. So I don't want to through a bunch of money at something that I will end up just replacing in less than a year.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 06:36 PM   #15
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Dana 60s with only 35s? That's overkill and you'll be dragging those axles on the ground everywhere you go.
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