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Unread 01-25-2014, 10:42 PM   #211
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That's true, I've gotta work on that too, haha I had the amps too high on some metal I've been working on, burnt straight through the metal! I've still got some learning haha I love it though

Ot. Got half of my stereo re wired. Such a pain, I'm not a fan of wires.

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Unread 01-25-2014, 11:28 PM   #212
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Got half of my stereo re wired. Such a pain, I'm not a fan of wires.

Old wires :thumbsdown:
Where are you running the new ones? Same as factory locations?
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Unread 01-26-2014, 11:12 AM   #213
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Where are you running the new ones? Same as factory locations?
Well actually the PO (my cousin) had an aftermarket stereo put in back in the early 2000's. So I'm replacing all of the wires involved with that. They all run along the floor boards and under the plastic trim. It's easy stuff really just can be a little tedious.
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Unread 01-26-2014, 01:58 PM   #214
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Well actually the PO (my cousin) had an aftermarket stereo put in back in the early 2000's. So I'm replacing all of the wires involved with that. They all run along the floor boards and under the plastic trim. It's easy stuff really just can be a little tedious.
Yea I agree. I'm probably leaving factory wiring in works good enough for me haha
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Unread 01-27-2014, 08:33 PM   #215
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Have you noticed better traction off road with the 231? I think I need to do this swap because my traction is crap right now with my 249, even with the front locked and 33 inch mud tires. Yes I need to re-gear my axles, but still... it's pretty bad
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Unread 01-27-2014, 08:50 PM   #216
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231 full locked 4hi should be a little bit better than the AWD.

In 4lo they are the exact same though (for post 96 249's).
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Unread 01-27-2014, 09:01 PM   #217
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Doesn't the 231 have 50/50 power split?
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Unread 01-27-2014, 09:17 PM   #218
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Yes, 231 4hi is 50/50 locked.

249 AWD is RWD until the fronts slip and then the VC locks up and it's 50/50. (For 96+ cases)

4lo is identical on both cases. 50/50 plus a 2.72:1 reduction. (Again only applies to 96! 249's)
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Yes, 231 4hi is 50/50 locked.

249 AWD is RWD until the fronts slip and then the VC locks up and it's 50/50. (For 96+ cases)

4lo is identical on both cases. 50/50 plus a 2.72:1 reduction. (Again only applies to 96! 249's)
Yeah and I'm one year off from the NV249 kinda bugs me now knowing I don't have a true four wheel drive option (50/50)
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Unread 01-28-2014, 10:35 AM   #220
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Yes, 231 4hi is 50/50 locked.

249 AWD is RWD until the fronts slip and then the VC locks up and it's 50/50. (For 96+ cases)

4lo is identical on both cases. 50/50 plus a 2.72:1 reduction. (Again only applies to 96! 249's)
So 4lo in a 231 would not have any better traction than 4lo in a 98 249?
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Unread 01-28-2014, 02:32 PM   #221
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That is correct.
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Unread 01-28-2014, 10:16 PM   #222
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I think the other guys already answered ian on the traction issue, but in my experience I haven't noticed a lot, but I haven't had the jeep out as much this winter as I did in the summer and fall. It should do better with the lo lock though I haven't tested it sufficiently.

Speaking of winter, we finally got some snow down here in Tennessee! Everything gets shut down about once a year when we get our annual snow. I threw my front driveshaft in and went for a drive.

In my city, there are either two places to leave your car when it snows.
The first place is in the nearest ditch


and the second place is at the local gas station, either one seams to work haha


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You locked the front? Cost? If you get snow, let me know how it performs!
In answer to this question you asked awhile back, the locker did fine. I drove around in 4hi on some of the roads that had not been salted and I had as much traction as I wanted, just have to watch out not to turn tight or it will bind, I didn't stay in 4hi often, only when I needed it.

I also got to flex her out a little, flex is about the same as it was before the lift, mostly due to the shocks. Might get to order my new ones soon





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Unread 01-28-2014, 10:28 PM   #223
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Nice. Northern Virginia is getting dumped on with snow right now. And it's freezzzing!!
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Unread 01-28-2014, 10:49 PM   #224
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You call that snow?! I would kill for a good foot or so of snow to play around in right now.
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Unread 01-29-2014, 07:50 AM   #225
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Ah so little snow. Come to Wisconsin and you'll have more to play in! Glad to hear the locker was good on the roads (Except in turns like expected) def going to be on my list for future mods, might even save for e-locker. We will see! Need to get rid of this NP249 first.
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