post #151 of Old 10-28-2013, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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You locked the front? Cost? If you get snow, let me know how it performs!
Sure did got it from Kolak for $219 shipped, I meant to add that to my write up actually, I'm gonna go do that. and it hardly ever snows here, if it does happen to snow I'll let you know though!

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Damn nice writeup dude. After I get my 231 I'm gunna start looking at lockers.

Thanks man! Yeah man! I just can't wait to go test it out for real, I did a little backyard crawling earlier and it performed great! Make sure to check with Kolak and see if he can get you a good deal.


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Sure did got it from Kolak for $219 shipped, I meant to add that to my write up actually, I'm gonna go do that. and it hardly ever snows here, if it does happen to snow I'll let you know though!

I want to electronic lock one of my axles...only if I win the lottery

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post #153 of Old 10-29-2013, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
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So little note on the locker. It works fine! Buuuut cv axles don't work very well at all. I'm only on 31s and snapped one crawling up a stump in my yard.

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post #154 of Old 10-29-2013, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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Sure did got it from Kolak for $219 shipped, I meant to add that to my write up actually, I'm gonna go do that. and it hardly ever snows here, if it does happen to snow I'll let you know though!

I want to electronic lock one of my axles...only if I win the lottery
You could go the same route i did, 231 swap and a lunchbox. That gives you a selectable front locker (selectable meaning you can choose not to use it by putting it in rwd.) Total cost for all that for me was only around $450.

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post #155 of Old 10-29-2013, 11:04 PM
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Is the 231 a strong case and not much hassle to swap? Sounds like a great idea... I hear lockers are horrible in the snow because they can kick in at a bad time an screw you up. If you have electronic (or the set up you have) would that make a locker beneficial for the snow?

Logically, if mother nature dumps 16" of snow on us, I can start my jeep, throw her into 4hi (or lo) and ill b on my way with one locked axle.

Then when spring comes around, ill switch her back to 2H and not utilize the front axle locker?

Is this correct? (Sorry lockers confuse me big time)

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Is the 231 a strong case and not much hassle to swap? Sounds like a great idea... I hear lockers are horrible in the snow because they can kick in at a bad time an screw you up. If you have electronic (or the set up you have) would that make a locker beneficial for the snow?

Logically, if mother nature dumps 16" of snow on us, I can start my jeep, throw her into 4hi (or lo) and ill b on my way with one locked axle.

Then when spring comes around, ill switch her back to 2H and not utilize the front axle locker?

Is this correct? (Sorry lockers confuse me big time)
From what I've read the 231 is about equal in strength the the 249. (and the 249 is actually pretty good despite common belief, it's just impractical when the vc goes out, and impractical for my use). I have heard that the 231 is stronger than the 242 though.

From all the stuff I've read, and based on how mine now drives in the dirt. I believe you are correct, if you copy my set up you should be fine driving it in the snow in 4hi with the locker engaged, then when there's no snow just put it back into 2hi which disengages the locker and go on being happy.

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From what I've read the 231 is about equal in strength the the 249. (and the 249 is actually pretty good despite common belief, it's just impractical when the vc goes out, and impractical for my use). I have heard that the 231 is stronger than the 242 though.

From all the stuff I've read, and based on how mine now drives in the dirt. I believe you are correct, if you copy my set up you should be fine driving it in the snow in 4hi with the locker engaged, then when there's no snow just put it back into 2hi which disengages the locker and go on being happy.
Might look into it then. We get a pretty decent snow fall around here and I plan on moving to Upper Michigan so it'll sure come in handy. Project has to wait til next summer tho time to save money and do my homework on it.

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Might look into it then. We get a pretty decent snow fall around here and I plan on moving to Upper Michigan so it'll sure come in handy. Project has to wait til next summer tho time to save money and do my homework on it.
Yeah, i'd suggest researching some info on how lockers in the front handle in snow. I'm sure some tj and xj guys have done it, if not other zj guys as well.

Probably smart, do your research and make sure you know what you want first. I've found it's easiest for me to buy things in segments, that way you don't have a huge stack of money sitting in a bank begging to get spent on other items. So first just start working on gettimg a case, then move from there.

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The 231 isn't as strong as the 249 by default, the middle number is actually a strength rating, four being better than three. The 231 does have the best aftermarket support of the three cases and can be beefed up to be stronger than the 249 or 242.

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The 231 isn't as strong as the 249 by default, the middle number is actually a strength rating, four being better than three. The 231 does have the best aftermarket support of the three cases and can be beefed up to be stronger than the 249 or 242.

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Ahh gotcha, just going by what i'd read. But you can't trust errebody so thanks for setting me straight

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How does your locker activate exactly? when it senses a slip? or is it locked at all times?

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How does your locker activate exactly? when it senses a slip? or is it locked at all times?
Lunchbox type lockers (Like mine) activate when you press the throttle. When you press the throttle in 4wd it puts pressure on my locker in the front, activating it and locking the front axles together. When I let off the throttle the locker disengages and opens back up.

This setup in rear wheel drive means that I don't even notice the locker when I drive on the street, as the transfer case is not putting anu pressure on the front driveshaft/axle. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it all works.

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Lunchbox type lockers (Like mine) activate when you press the throttle. When you press the throttle in 4wd it puts pressure on my locker in the front, activating it and locker the front axles together. When I let off the throttle the locker disengages and opens back up.

This setup in rear wheel drive means that I don't even notice the locker when I drive on the street, as the transfer case is not putting and pressure on the front driveshaft/axle. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it all works.
Interesting...did you take it on the highway or over 40mph yet in 2wd? I wouldnt imagine that being any more different than it being in AWD with the 249.

Looking at the transmission Saturday. Have to drop the pan and replace the seal+filter. Hopefully I don't run into a lot of shavings or else a rebuild will come before this mod

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Interesting...did you take it on the highway or over 40mph yet in 2wd? I wouldnt imagine that being any more different than it being in AWD with the 249.

Looking at the transmission Saturday. Have to drop the pan and replace the seal+filter. Hopefully I don't run into a lot of shavings or else a rebuild will come before this mod
Haven't been on the highway yet, but i have been on some back roads at around 50. It drives pretty much the same, except you can do burnouts Though I've only done that like twice, I don't wanna mess up my tires so I don't do it much.

Hope the best for ya man, I've heard some shavings are expected to be found, not sure if that's true or not. I found a few tiny shavings in mine when I dropped it and changed over the summer.

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Trimmed Fenders

Borrowed my friends dremmel to trim back my fenders, I still need to clean up the cut some, but who know's if I'll ever do that

Here's some pics, it turned out pretty well all things considered.







I sanded down the edges and tossed some bedliner stuff on to hopefully keep it from rusting.





I'm probably going on a weekend camping/wheeling trip here in a week or two, I can't wait

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