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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:26 PM   #1
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Is this as much of a steal as I think it is?

Well I decided to enter the world of wheelin so I figured I would start small and work my way up. Originally I was looking at the RE 2" BB but then I went to fat bobs garage and found a 3" BB with the performance 8000 shocks. I then looked on ebay for the 3" kit and found the same kit for $40 cheaper than what fat bobs was selling it for. And not only that, but the kit found on ebay comes with bump stop extenders included where as fat bobs charged an extra $10. Once the kit is installed I plan to add 1.5" wheel spacers with some 31/10.5s

Long story short.. is this as good of a deal as my newb self thinks it is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Grand-C...-/250575202756

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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:28 PM   #2
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:33 PM   #3
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hahaha, but is it atleast a good deal? I mean, Im on a pretty tight budget. And this is the cheapest I found.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:47 PM   #4
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lol those shocks look kinda sketchy to me....I'm the first to take risks when it comes to deals on eBay for jeep parts, and I'll say that I think I would save up the money for a proper kit...your suspension is too important to use crappy parts especially lift and shocks. Besides you'll just have to spend more money later when those cruddy shocks poop out.

I'd say pass on "Fat Bob's Garage"
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:55 PM   #5
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You need to spend some time reading this:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...thread-591767/

A 2" BB and shocks is all you need to run 31's. 3" BBs start to get sketchy and there's no way I'd stack an additional 1.5" puck on top of that. Even if you did that would put you at 4.5" and at that height you have to start upgrading parts like trackbars, control arms, brake lines, etc.

IMO just get a 2" BB and get some decent shocks that won't ride like a dump truck. This way you can still run the 31's without spending a ton of money on upgrading parts.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:57 PM   #6
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lol those shocks look kinda sketchy to me....I'm the first to take risks when it comes to deals on eBay for jeep parts, and I'll say that I think I would save up the money for a proper kit...your suspension is too important to use crappy parts especially lift and shocks. Besides you'll just have to spend more money later when those cruddy shocks poop out.

I'd say pass on "Fat Bob's Garage"
I must say, those shocks dont look near as legit as the RE ones I was looking at. But, Im here to learn so, maybe I'll let em go.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:58 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=donha1mn;12643772]You need to spend some time reading this:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...thread-591767/
whoa, I will definitley check that out. thank you!
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Unread 12-08-2011, 10:59 PM   #8
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You need to spend some time reading this:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...thread-591767/

A 2" BB and shocks is all you need to run 31's. 3" BBs start to get sketchy and there's no way I'd stack an additional 1.5" puck on top of that. Even if you did that would put you at 4.5" and at that height you have to start upgrading parts like trackbars, control arms, brake lines, etc.

IMO just get a 2" BB and get some decent shocks that won't ride like a dump truck. This way you can still run the 31's without spending a ton of money on upgrading parts.
The 1.5" "blocks" are wheel spacers to save money and have your wheels offset.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 11:32 PM   #9
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The 1.5" "blocks" are wheel spacers to save money and have your wheels offset.
You're right. When I first read it I missed "wheel" and just saw 1.5" spacers.


I haven't looked at the price of wheel spacers recently but IIRC you may just want to consider getting a set of soft 8s with 4" of backspacing instead, since you get a new set of wheels for practically same price as two sets of spacers
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Unread 12-08-2011, 11:54 PM   #10
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Should have used the search bar first huh? So far all I have read is that this kit is nothing but trouble.
I think I'll just tone it down to the 2" BB.
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Unread 12-09-2011, 01:20 AM   #11
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You need to spend some time reading this:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...thread-591767/

A 2" BB and shocks is all you need to run 31's. 3" BBs start to get sketchy and there's no way I'd stack an additional 1.5" puck on top of that. Even if you did that would put you at 4.5" and at that height you have to start upgrading parts like trackbars, control arms, brake lines, etc.

IMO just get a 2" BB and get some decent shocks that won't ride like a dump truck. This way you can still run the 31's without spending a ton of money on upgrading parts.

Listen to this guy, he knows things and stuff.

as for a 2" puck lift. before dropping ur coin on one make sure ur not waisting ur time/money. go measure if ur factory coils have sagged out a bunch or not. if i recall right from fender to hub is 17"? dont quote me on it! lol.

to me it seems like a waist going with pucks if ur factory coils are sagged out. put in 2" pucks and it gets you back to stock height.

Iron Rock makes a great 3.5" kit that comes with everything you need to do it right.

Im not saying pucks/bb's arnt the way to go. im just saying that if moneys tight its best to put it where its going to go the furthest.
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Unread 12-09-2011, 04:02 AM   #12
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OP...that kit will work fine and will be a great starting point if you are just getting into wheeling. You can't do much better for the money
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Unread 12-09-2011, 05:45 AM   #13
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The 1.5" "blocks" are wheel spacers to save money and have your wheels offset.
Wheel spacers? Excuse my ignorance, you guys use spacers to get more positive offset?

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Wheel spacers? Excuse my ignorance, you guys use spacers to get more positive offset?

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Most of the automotive world uses spacers on the wheels or at least has the option.

Personally I'd be uncomfortable with over 1/2" though...
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Unread 12-09-2011, 09:52 PM   #15
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Will I need to lower my TC if its only a 2" BB? My CV is starting to go out as it is, I wanna lift it but, I dont want to make existing issues worse.
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