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Unread 06-28-2015, 08:36 AM   #1
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Mods needed after lifting?

So I am looking into buying my first ZJ.
I looked but didn't see, is there a list of things that need to be done after you lift a certain amount? To fix driveline angles or something like that.

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Unread 06-28-2015, 08:40 AM   #2
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Check out my thread.
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Unread 06-28-2015, 09:16 AM   #3
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You can lift up to 3.5 inches without having to make any adjustments to the driveline. Anything more than that will change angles enough to require some adjustments.
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Unread 06-28-2015, 09:33 AM   #4
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Even a 3.5" lift benefits greatly from an adjustable rear track bar & a double shear front track bar, not to mention needing extended sway bar links in the front & back, and shocks with more travel.

Yes, these are suspension, not driveline, components - but they impact your driveline & drivability.
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Unread 06-28-2015, 09:40 AM   #5
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At 2" you really need an adjustable front trackbar.

Above that you need a rear one.

Above 3.5" you aren't going to get away with stock control arms.

Above 4.5" you start wanting long arms.

Above 7" you need your head examined.

Steering angles start to get bad after 4.5", but by that time you're usually doing something else that fixes it anyway (better axle with high steer, OTK WJ swap).

With the exception of the rzeppa front driveshaft the stock driveshafts will take you very far.

Of course the real answer is that you shouldn't base a lift off of the height you want but on the tires you want to run and the trails you want to take.
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Unread 07-23-2015, 01:15 PM   #6
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Oye, I never got any mails that anyone responded to this post, thank you all.

I bought a 97 v8 zj, going to pick it up Saturday, guy says it has a 5 inch rustys lift on it, I dont even see a 5inch on their web site. Assuming it is lifted 5 inches and its on 33x12.5x15 tires is there anything I would need to do immediately for safety?
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Unread 07-23-2015, 02:05 PM   #7
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Really just depends on the status of the parts currently on the Jeep, what the PO replaced, what parts he replaced components with, etc.

If you haven't already, look at the bushings in your control arms, track bars, sway bar links, sway bars, and shocks. Also inspect your tie rod ends and ball joints. Any cracked, bulging, deteriorating rubber will need to be addressed - either immediately or soon after delivery. Torn grease boots will need to be addressed right away, and if there's any play in your ball joints (tie rod ends) you'll want to look into replacing them as well. Check your steering stabilizer for leaking fluid, as well as your shocks.

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Oye, I never got any mails that anyone responded to this post, thank you all.

I bought a 97 v8 zj, going to pick it up Saturday, guy says it has a 5 inch rustys lift on it, I dont even see a 5inch on their web site. Assuming it is lifted 5 inches and its on 33x12.5x15 tires is there anything I would need to do immediately for safety?
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Unread 07-23-2015, 03:23 PM   #8
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Post pics of the suspension once you get it and we'll help you figure out what you have.
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Unread 07-23-2015, 04:40 PM   #9
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Thanks so much, should have it home Saturday morning, I'll get some pictures underneath.
This is a picture of it, does it look like a 5 inch lift?

Only thing I lifted was my old k5, not sure how high the lift was, it was on the axles when I bought them, guy said it was 4 inches but it looked a lot like this.
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Unread 07-23-2015, 04:47 PM   #10
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Yeah, that looks to be in the 5-6 range. On short arms thats not really going to ride great, you should really be on long arms.
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Unread 07-23-2015, 05:07 PM   #11
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When you say arms, length of control arms??
I don't drive too much normally, my commute is only about 10-15mins each way to work so I can deal with a rough ride at first.

Can I just replace the arms with long arms?
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Unread 07-23-2015, 05:37 PM   #12
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Yes, short arms use the stock frame side mounts which will give you poor geometry at such a high lift.

You can get a long arm upgrade kit from a few places, I would suggest IRO or clayton, and you can start with the front and do the back later.
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Unread 07-23-2015, 06:32 PM   #13
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As well as giving the suspension a close eye, I'd also check the spare tire on the roof. Is that 550 cord tying down the spare?
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Unread 07-24-2015, 06:17 PM   #14
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This is what a 3.5 inch lift looks like

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Unread 07-25-2015, 08:41 AM   #15
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Got her home, going to take some pictures soon hopefully.

Guy said it was a rustys 5inch long arm kit. Assume he means the 5.5inch, dont see a 5 inch on their web site.

It rode pretty well on the way home.

Few issues that I came across though, the pass window motor works but the glass comes down unevenly, any ideas why?
Also the little diagnostic screen was telling me cooling sensor bad, does that mean my temp gauge isn't working?
It also need 4 shocks, for the back window and rear tailgate, do we have a part number for them so I can order them?

Thanks so much guys
Steve
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