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Unread 10-03-2009, 04:12 PM   #1
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looking into a 5.9L limited

hey guys im new to the forum and i have found this limited for 3600...... 135kmiles, 5.9L, AWD, V8, auto, loaded, leather, remote start, tow pkg, new tires/brakes, 1-owner, inspected & warranty... its at a dealership and i just wanted to get some more info from experience with on the 5.9L grand cherokees...thanks

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Unread 10-03-2009, 04:40 PM   #2
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AWD is bad.
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Unread 10-03-2009, 05:06 PM   #3
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You aren't going to find a stock 5.9 without the 249 T case. A 242 or 231 swap is relatively cheap and easy to swap in.

See if you can talk them down more, even though for only 3600 it's not a bad deal.
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Unread 10-03-2009, 05:09 PM   #4
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5.9s are awesome!
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Unread 10-03-2009, 05:14 PM   #5
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Seems like a pretty good price to me. Take it for a test drive for about 10 minutes to let it warm up. Find an open parking lot and do some tight figure eights, if it binds while turning you need a new transfer case.
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Unread 10-03-2009, 06:12 PM   #6
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Befumo - All 5.9s were AWD (249) from the factory.
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Unread 10-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #7
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If it binds up in a tight turn the viscous coupler needs replacing not the entire transfer case. Some people at this time change out the transfer case to one that suits them better but if you like the full-time 249 just replace the VC for about $400.
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Unread 10-03-2009, 07:20 PM   #8
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If it binds up in a tight turn the viscous coupler needs replacing not the entire transfer case. Some people at this time change out the transfer case to one that suits them better but if you like the full-time 249 just replace the VC for about $400.
That would be a complete waste of money. A 242 transfer case is far better than a 249 and can be swapped in for cheaper than $400.
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That would be a complete waste of money. A 242 transfer case is far better than a 249 and can be swapped in for cheaper than $400.
I don't think he was saying that is the better of the options, he was just pointing out that just because the VC is toast, doesn't mean the whole TC is bad.
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135k on a niner for $3600.....buy it.
I paid more than that for my 318 albeit 85k on the clock from a dealer.
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I don't think he was saying that is the better of the options, he was just pointing out that just because the VC is toast, doesn't mean the whole TC is bad.
And I'm saying it's not a good option.
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I just picked up my 5.9 a few weeks ago. I love it! That is, if it wasn't leaking stuff constantly and in the shop more than I drive it
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Befumo - All 5.9s were AWD (249) from the factory.
Did not know that, but makes sense arent all the Orvis, 5.9, TSi all AWD? Anyways 10 minutes is not enough (or at least for my 249) to start binding up. Mine has 120k miles takes about an hour to bind up, also depends on the temperature outside. Either way in the future you will have problems with the VC binding up. Though mine has been doing it for a while and nothing has happened yet it just makes a horrible bumping feeling/noise when you make tight turns. What happens if you continue to drive the VC into the ground?

But yeah you make the 242 swap you got it made.

242+360=
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Driving on a bad VC stresses your ring and pinion in the axles, and puts a lot of extra stress on your axle shafts and CV joints.

Jeep's opinion on the 249 was that the "Full Time 4wd" was higher end, so the higher end models like most limiteds, the Orvis, 5.9, and a lot of V8s (even laredos) came with it. They pushed it pretty hard. My mom used to have a 95 4.0 Laredo with a 249. She sold it at 110k miles before the VC started to go, however.
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Driving on a bad VC stresses your ring and pinion in the axles, and puts a lot of extra stress on your axle shafts and CV joints.

Jeep's opinion on the 249 was that the "Full Time 4wd" was higher end, so the higher end models like most limiteds, the Orvis, 5.9, and a lot of V8s (even laredos) came with it. They pushed it pretty hard. My mom used to have a 95 4.0 Laredo with a 249. She sold it at 110k miles before the VC started to go, however.
Heard some people say that it does not stress the axle shafts etc unless you have larger tires etc. If they go bad around 75k miles, then mine has 50k miles on it.

This is true my father used to sell them back in the day. Its funny if you look in the FSM theres nothing about transfer case failing and viscous coupler in the same section, just removing the VC.
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