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Unread 10-21-2010, 02:08 PM   #16
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The Warn kit is $1100, the MM is about $690. Plus you have to get the rotor with a larger center(hub) hole or have them machined. And of course you loose your ABS. I put the Dynatrac($1750) system on my big truck so I could get rid of the unit bearings, they really suck on a big truck with 37s.

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Unread 10-22-2010, 03:43 PM   #17
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So, it really sounds like a transfer case swap may be the better (economical) choice. I've found a few around the area in the $250-$450 range, for both the 242 and the 249. Do I have to match the TC I find with my transmission or engine? For example, I have seen a bunch from my year and model, but from a Jeep with a 4.0L, whereas mine is a 5.2L. I also know my tranny was swapped, but I do not know the current model, but can find it out. Any thoughts?
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Unread 10-22-2010, 06:06 PM   #18
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the transfer case swap thread...it has answers to every single question you could have about it.


Warn no longer makes the hub kit for the d30, they sold it to superior.
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Unread 10-23-2010, 02:38 AM   #19
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FYI

I purchased the Warn hub kit a few years ago. I contacted Warn about a replacement hub a few months ago and they sent me a Mile Marker hub.
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Unread 10-23-2010, 07:33 AM   #20
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Correct me if I am wrong please but isn't it possible if it is binding severly that the previous owner may have put the wrong fluid in the transfer case ?
i know for a fact in the older grand wagoneer's with quadra trac you have to put a certian oil in it or would not function properly at all it would jump bind creek and grone like no other
maybe that could be part of this problem they installed the wrong lube
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Unread 11-20-2010, 06:28 PM   #21
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Here is an update on this jeep build -

I found a used 242 out of a 97 grand cherokee for $100, which was a pretty good deal considering other local prices. i did have to help remove it. but the owner of the doner cut the shift linkage in half with a saws all to remove it quickly before i realized the error of this.

i also took the drive shaft that came with the 242.

we put it in today, but we ran into a problem. the shift linkage does not allow the shifter to hit all of the gears in the transfer case, so we put it in 2wd and left it like that before i can figure out a solution. the plate on the shift linkage does not fit this new transfer case. (to reiterate, new 242 transfer case with old 249 shift linkage - does not fit.

so my problem now is, how can i find a shift linkage that will fit this transfer case? or make this work? i have not removed the shift gate, and could not manage to remove the center console to remove the original bezel. anyone have any thoughts on this? thanks.
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Unread 11-20-2010, 07:06 PM   #22
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Novak's NP / NVG Shifter Assembly for Jeeps

This is what I have and it works better than stock.
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Unread 11-21-2010, 08:21 AM   #23
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Novak's NP / NVG Shifter Assembly for Jeeps

This is what I have and it works better than stock.
But its $157 dollars. I'm sure I can find a cheaper solution.
I think I can take the plate of the 242 shift linkage, and use the control arm from the 249. But it has a stupid little plastic bezel, and I am not sure how to reattach the plate to the new arm.
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Unread 11-21-2010, 08:37 AM   #24
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Novak's NP / NVG Shifter Assembly for Jeeps

This is what I have and it works better than stock.
I have it as well, and it's far and away better than stock. It deletes the awful linkage routing that Jeep designed. My linkage would consistently pop out of alignment while attempting to shift the TC. This eliminates this possibility completely.

Just a thought...
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Unread 11-21-2010, 01:23 PM   #25
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i managed to take the plate off of the old linkage, but how does one remove the linkage from the transfer case while it is installed in the jeep? it looks like its pressed into a little plastic ring on the transfer case side. i suppose i may just have to order the replacement part as recommended by the last two posters.
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Unread 11-22-2010, 02:54 PM   #26
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Tomorrow I am going to a junk yard to try and pull a bezel, a shift gate, and a linkage for this Jeep. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to pull this linkage out without damaging it, and I do not know how to remove the shift gate either. Does anyone have any idea how to do this?
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Unread 11-22-2010, 11:01 PM   #27
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pretty sure the linkage is riveted into the floor
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Unread 01-12-2011, 07:55 AM   #28
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another update - i had a shop install the novak linkage, and the shifting is smooth as butter now. but, the very knowledgeable mechanic told me that, unlike what I thought the 242 I put in would shift like, I have 2H at the top, then 4H, 4L, then neutral. what gives? any thoughts?

up next for it is, i believe, the pinion bearing. im getting a lot of noise in the front end, and although the shop said a bearing was bad, they also said that the pinion bearing might have gone. any ideas how much this will cost a shop to fix? mechanic said it could be pricey.
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Unread 01-12-2011, 08:13 AM   #29
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Unread 01-20-2011, 08:30 PM   #30
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another update on this one - my first jeep, and i must say, im hooked. i knew a little about wrenching before this, but i am learning a **** of a lot from this jeep.

so far, i've done (with the help of a knowledgeable brother) the transfer case swap from a busted 249 to a 242 and installed the Novak linkage system.

work i've done on my own - re-soldered the VIC and got rid of the Coolant Sensor error, oil change, transmission filter change, and replaced the center consolse. next on the list is the dimming switch for my blinking interior lights, and fixing some rust on the hood, getting a new rear cargo liner, as well as the rear shocks on my gf's jeep. she has the same year/model jeep, and i've been working on hers as well - which she appreciates greatly. this forum has been a great help. if i want to do something, i do a search, and can almost always find an answer. go jeep forum.
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