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post #31 of 51 Old 03-22-2014, 12:30 PM
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He does have it backwards. Rear angle is fine. It's all about front pinion angle which I a why I'm getting front adj. arms. And that's what I'm trying to say...I WANT u-joint driveshaft NOT cv. Lol
So you think the rear angles will stay the same after you lift it to 4.5" and use stock or fixed arms?

I just stated that you need to use a U jointed front shaft, what don't you understand? Is this special ed class here?

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post #32 of 51 Old 03-22-2014, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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No it will not stay the same but at 4.5 inches it is not a huge concern compared to the front pinion angle. Atleast that's all I've ever heard and known.
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No it will not stay the same but at 4.5 inches it is not a huge concern compared to the front pinion angle. Atleast that's all I've ever heard and known.
Ok then I guess you have heard all you need to know for this to work out great. Disregard any info I gave you since I only have had the experience lifting my 95 ZJ to 4.5" and 33's ten years ago. A lot has probably changed by now.
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I'm not disregarding what you said I've just never heard that I need to fix the rear angle....especially at 4.5 inches? And I've only ever heard that the upper adjustable arms fix pinion angles. Correct me if I am wrong.
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You'll need uppers and lowers for it all to work.

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I know that I do not. Top is for the rear, bottom is for the front.
Despite reading multiple times, and quoting your statement, I read it wrong

You are absolutely correct
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Despite reading multiple times, and quoting your statement, I read it wrong

You are absolutely correct
Hah it's cool, i'll be drinking soon too.
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Lol, good read
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You'll need uppers and lowers for it all to work.
Well what would you recommend? 3.5 iches with major trimming? I know many people at 4-4.5 with stock arms
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I don't want to help you build a turd. If stock arms are good enough for you at those heights then by all means proceed. Never know until you try right? You can always add on layer if it doesn't work out.
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Here's what happens wheeling 33s on stock control arms

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Being a zjer for almost twenty years, I've seen, done and tried to help the masses. Stock control arms are just for that...stock. start modifying your jeep and you'll need different than stock equipment. At 4.5 of lift, I ran all Rubicon express control arms. At 5.5 and moving to 6.5, I ran all adjustable control arms.

Just because it fits....doesn't make it have endurance or a ride quality that you can live with. I was driving mine from south Texas to moab and back without failures. Without a crappy ride quality. Polka has led you down the correct path..you have to choose the red or blue pill.

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Being a zjer for almost twenty years, I've seen, done and tried to help the masses. Stock control arms are just for that...stock. start modifying your jeep and you'll need different than stock equipment. At 4.5 of lift, I ran all Rubicon express control arms. At 5.5 and moving to 6.5, I ran all adjustable control arms.

Just because it fits....doesn't make it have endurance or a ride quality that you can live with. I was driving mine from south Texas to moab and back without failures. Without a crappy ride quality. Polka has led you down the correct path..you have to choose the red or blue pill.

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Just a side note, I just put on the IRO 4.5 inch kit with stock arms. I purchased the XJ Control Arm Drop Brackets, and that makes a HUGE difference in ride quality and ability. I left the rear alone, but only because I couldn't see spending money on short arms when it'll have long arms this summer. So the Drop Brackets were more for my own ride comfort as it is my daily driver. As far as the drive shafts, I ripped my CV front in half today, but the rear is holding up like a champ and I still have plenty of driveline left inside for flexing. Just my 2 cents.
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The xj brackets are just a poor bandaid. They reduce your ground clearance.

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post #45 of 51 Old 03-22-2014, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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Like I said I CANT afford adjustable arms. I'm asking at what hight should I do for 33' tires. I know for a fact that 3.5 inches would be fine with stock arms. I would go up to 5-6 but way to much time and $$$ if I can do almost the same at 4.5 and under
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