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post #1 of 35 Old 11-12-2004, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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Lifting a WJ 2" - any thoughts?

I just bought a 1999 WJ and am thinking about doing a 1 or 2 inch lift. Any thoughts from other WJ owners who have done this are appreciated. I am worried about having to lengthen the brake lines if I go 2", but I am wanted to know for sure from someone who has done it. Also, if I do this does anyone know what my max tire size will be? Also interested in pics of WJs with BF Goodrich all terrain T/As or Mud terrains.

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post #2 of 35 Old 11-12-2004, 12:44 PM
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I used the Rusty's 2" spacer kit on my wifes 2000 WJ and it worked great. Istallation was very easy and I didnt have to legnthen the brake lines at all. I put bfg mud terrain 255/70/16's on 16x8 black rockcrawler wheels with 5" backspacing and it works perfect. That tire size is a 30.5 x10.5 in inches and I only had to trim about a 1/4" off of the very bottom of the plasic front bumper fairing. I dont know how to post pics yet but as soon as I (or someone helps me) can I will.

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I had the TeraFlex 2" bb on for over a year. Brake lines aren't a problem til 6 or so.

With out trimming i think 245/75/16 or 265/70/16. I had the 265/70s, they rubbed only when backing up and turning. If i had to do it again, i would've gone for 2" springs instead of the spacer.

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I've never lifted a car before. Until I bought the jeep i was more interested in small fast autocross cars, and lifting wasnt really recommended for that. What are the pros and cons of suspension lifts as apposed to spacer kits? Thanks for the reply on the brakelines, a relief to hear.
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I have a 2' Rough Country Spacer Lift and its been great still haven't gotten bigger tires but as for brakes and such you souldn't have any probs. The only thing I did is relocate the mount for the ABS cable so i'd have plenty of slack when I flexed the suspension.

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I had the TeraFlex 2" bb on for over a year. Brake lines aren't a problem til 6 or so.

With out trimming i think 245/75/16 or 265/70/16. I had the 265/70s, they rubbed only when backing up and turning. If i had to do it again, i would've gone for 2" springs instead of the spacer.
defferk - did you notice any death wobble with the spacers? why would you go with springs instead? I am looking at doing the 2" bb and swapping the stock springs with some rancho rs9000x shocks. Or would you recommend just getting the rs9000x that raise it 2"? Like I said, this is all new to me so i'm open to criticism. thanks.
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You're better off with a suspension lift as you're not really hiring your center of gravity as much as you would with spacers.
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A coil spacer is a suspension lift on a GC. You can't body lift a unibody style vehicle. I know many people that just run coil spacers and a little longer shocks. If you aren't going to off-road much it's the least expensive and you'll probably be just as happy as you would be if you did a full suspension. If you want a taller ride for the bigger 31" or larger tires, then a full suspension is the only way to go. I have a 3.5" and I love it. Maybe in a few years, I'll upgrade to a 5" or taller long arm. We'll just have to see. Good luck in whatever you do and be sure to let us know and post pics as well!

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Only reason id go for springs is a nicer ride, on road that comes with the springs. Dont get me wrong, the Budget boost was fine and cheaper, but i liked the springs better.
Never tried the ranchos.

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Springs wont get you a nicer ride unless you get nicer springs, one advantage of spacer lifts is they dont really change the ride quality, as you still have the same springs.

We have a 2.25" spacer lift in ours and we love it, but want to go higher, heh. still using stock shocks, but we could use longer shocks in the rear, you can feel them overextend over speedbumps.... if you just want a little lift w/out breaking the bank go for a spacer lift.


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you can fit 265/75 16 with very minor trimming (scissors and a razor blade handled the job) if you go with a 2" budget boost. The ride quality is comparable to before the lift. No other mods are needed.

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Springs wont get you a nicer ride unless you get nicer springs, one advantage of spacer lifts is they dont really change the ride quality, as you still have the same springs.

We have a 2.25" spacer lift in ours and we love it, but want to go higher, heh. still using stock shocks, but we could use longer shocks in the rear, you can feel them overextend over speedbumps.... if you just want a little lift w/out breaking the bank go for a spacer lift.

thanks for the pics guys, and the tip. I bought a spacer lift and will be putting it on next week. I also have a 99 black laredo, same wheels, everything....it looks good with the lift and larger tires. I think i'm going to go for BFG all terrains though.
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Yea if you go with 265/75/16, all we had to trim was a little bit of the wheel liner and bottom part of the bumper where the passenger side tire hits it. they will also rub slightly on the inner fender and control arm on the passenger side at full lock, as you can see by the silver parts in the picture.




and here is where you will need to trim, i just used a razor blade, worked great.

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Springs wont get you a nicer ride unless you get nicer springs, one advantage of spacer lifts is they dont really change the ride quality, as you still have the same springs.

We have a 2.25" spacer lift in ours and we love it, but want to go higher, heh. still using stock shocks, but we could use longer shocks in the rear, you can feel them overextend over speedbumps.... if you just want a little lift w/out breaking the bank go for a spacer lift.


Obviously you get nicer springs , why the hell would you get crappy ones.
And i think the spacer does change the ride.
Its a good lift for the price.

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yup, you will definately rub on the front control arms




but this could be fixed with 1/2" wheel spacers (don't worry, as the tires won't stick out the fenderwells even with the spacers), but you will have to knock out your current lug bolts and press in longer ones. Or just buy some aftermarket wheels with less than a 6" backspacing.


edit - oh yeah...here is a closeup of the flappy thing you gotta cut off on the front fender-well liner....just straight across from the notch -


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