lift question. thinking of going bigger and now i am slightly confused about old lift - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > Models > Jeep Grand Cherokee & Commander Forums > ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum > lift question. thinking of going bigger and now i am slightly confused about old lift

Introducing MONSTALINER™ UV Permanent DIY Roll On Bed LineSavvy Billet LED Tail LightsLight up the holidays with LED lights from JeepHut

Reply
Unread 01-22-2009, 08:01 AM   #1
Irish_Assassin
Registered User
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 992
lift question. thinking of going bigger and now i am slightly confused about old lift

Im thinking of going bigger on my lift and moving to a IRO 4.5 lift. Was wondering what parts I could still use from my current lift. Should I still use them? Now comes the confused part. I purchased my jeep already lifted. I have always thought and have been told that I have a Teraflex lift. While looking at the Tera site today there is no mention of ever selling a 3.0 lift for ZJ's or any lift for that matter besides BB spacers. So my question is did/does Tera make a 3.0 for ZJ's? Does anyone have any insight?

__________________
April '11 GCOTM
COLORADO JEEP CLUB #133
www.militaryjeepers.com
Irish_Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 08:43 AM   #2
nierace
Registered User
2003 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 8,242
Do you have coils or a puck on top of the coils ?

To figure out how much lift you have, measure from the center of the hub to the fender.
__________________
Nickerdoodle
03 WJ 4.7 242HD Kolak/IRO 5" Clayton LA's
35" BFGoodrich KM2
sira4x4.net North East Offroad Club
www.carolinadriveline.com
www.ironrockoffroad.com
kolak@aol.com
nierace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 08:46 AM   #3
Irish_Assassin
Registered User
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 992
i have the 3.0 live but i was more curious of the brand.
__________________
April '11 GCOTM
COLORADO JEEP CLUB #133
www.militaryjeepers.com
Irish_Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 09:20 AM   #4
ArloGuthroJeep
Mr. Hyde!
 
ArloGuthroJeep's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 23,087
Did you install the lift, or someone else?
__________________
'04 WJ, 6" Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 35" BFG MT KM2's, 4.56 gears, & D44a locked
'14 WK2 Limited w/5.7L, ORAI, & Tow Package
ArloGuthroJeep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 09:23 AM   #5
nierace
Registered User
2003 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 8,242
Do you have taller coils or do you have a big BB? How do you know you have the 3" lift, did you measure from hub to center to figure out what you actually netted ?

It's really impossible to tell what you have unless you find a tag on something or the coils are painted in some distinct color...something that could have been manufactured when the lift was put on may no longer be available.

Since its only 3" lift I'd be willing to bet that literally they just threw on the coils/big BB and maybe longer shocks and nothing else. If they did it right then it should have longer sway bar endlinks and longer/adjustable trackbars...

Regardless if you go to 4.5" you're still going to want longer endlinks and adjustable track bars (unless it already has them) but you don't have to do the track bar...

Adjustable Control arms are also highly recommended for 4.5"

Ryan he bought it already lifted...you're developing Hunterism.
__________________
Nickerdoodle
03 WJ 4.7 242HD Kolak/IRO 5" Clayton LA's
35" BFGoodrich KM2
sira4x4.net North East Offroad Club
www.carolinadriveline.com
www.ironrockoffroad.com
kolak@aol.com
nierace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #6
ArloGuthroJeep
Mr. Hyde!
 
ArloGuthroJeep's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 23,087
Reading is overrated
__________________
'04 WJ, 6" Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 35" BFG MT KM2's, 4.56 gears, & D44a locked
'14 WK2 Limited w/5.7L, ORAI, & Tow Package
ArloGuthroJeep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 10:08 AM   #7
Irish_Assassin
Registered User
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 992
Quote:
Originally Posted by nierace View Post
Do you have taller coils or do you have a big BB? How do you know you have the 3" lift, did you measure from hub to center to figure out what you actually netted ?

It's really impossible to tell what you have unless you find a tag on something or the coils are painted in some distinct color...something that could have been manufactured when the lift was put on may no longer be available.

Since its only 3" lift I'd be willing to bet that literally they just threw on the coils/big BB and maybe longer shocks and nothing else. If they did it right then it should have longer sway bar endlinks and longer/adjustable trackbars...

Regardless if you go to 4.5" you're still going to want longer endlinks and adjustable track bars (unless it already has them) but you don't have to do the track bar...

Adjustable Control arms are also highly recommended for 4.5"

Ryan he bought it already lifted...you're developing Hunterism.

I havent measured but I will now. They did coils shocks adjustable lower CA's and quick discos but oddly not a trackbar. I put on my adjustable one on.
__________________
April '11 GCOTM
COLORADO JEEP CLUB #133
www.militaryjeepers.com
Irish_Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 11:30 AM   #8
FooK
Registered User
2002 WJ 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
Posts: 1,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Assassin View Post
I havent measured but I will now. They did coils shocks adjustable lower CA's and quick discos but oddly not a trackbar. I put on my adjustable one on.
If you've got adjustable lowers and such, I'd do this...

- Longer shocks
- Longer Coils
- Consider adjustable uppers too.
- Watch the angles on your swaybar links, you may want to go longer.
- Start thinking about SYE and Double Cardan DS, but do a T-Case drop at least.
__________________
Jason Roy - Marketing Director at WP
Driver #1724 Team WP Jeepspeed
Co-Driver #36 ERS Rally Team
FooK is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 11:41 AM   #9
ArloGuthroJeep
Mr. Hyde!
 
ArloGuthroJeep's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 23,087
Yeck, SYE and T-case drops at 4.5"? No way
__________________
'04 WJ, 6" Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 35" BFG MT KM2's, 4.56 gears, & D44a locked
'14 WK2 Limited w/5.7L, ORAI, & Tow Package
ArloGuthroJeep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 11:45 AM   #10
FooK
Registered User
2002 WJ 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Tualatin, Oregon
Posts: 1,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArloGuthroJeep View Post
Yeck, SYE and T-case drops at 4.5"? No way
I said start thinking about it. That's kind of a borderline height. Most I've known with ZJ's have had vibes at that height.
__________________
Jason Roy - Marketing Director at WP
Driver #1724 Team WP Jeepspeed
Co-Driver #36 ERS Rally Team
FooK is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 11:53 AM   #11
Irish_Assassin
Registered User
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 992
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArloGuthroJeep View Post
Yeck, SYE and T-case drops at 4.5"? No way

why not?? and what is yeck and sye?? the iro 4.5 comes with a t case drop kit. are you saying i wouldnt want to install it? if so why.

im sorry i may ask some obvious or dumb questions at times. im still pretty much a newb and am trying to learn as much as possible. the second i got my jeep i fell in love and just want to make sure i do things the proper way.
__________________
April '11 GCOTM
COLORADO JEEP CLUB #133
www.militaryjeepers.com
Irish_Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 11:59 AM   #12
nierace
Registered User
2003 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 8,242
Yeck is a super advanced lift component.

SYE = slip yoke eliminator (Fixed Yoke) makes the drive shaft longer so it can handle the extra lift height.

You should do alot more searching though, all of this has been covered quite a bit.
__________________
Nickerdoodle
03 WJ 4.7 242HD Kolak/IRO 5" Clayton LA's
35" BFGoodrich KM2
sira4x4.net North East Offroad Club
www.carolinadriveline.com
www.ironrockoffroad.com
kolak@aol.com
nierace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 01-22-2009, 02:17 PM   #13
ArloGuthroJeep
Mr. Hyde!
 
ArloGuthroJeep's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 23,087
I haven't known any ZJ's to have vibes at 4.5" of lift...if they have vibes, they probably don't have adjustable control arms. A t-case drop just isn't needed...ESPECIALLY in conjunction with a SYE. A SYE won't hurt, but a T-case drop just wastes lift...might as well only lift it 3.5" if you plan on dropping the t-case 1".

If you want to get the IRO 4.5" kit, that is great, but install it w/o the t-case drop first. Then only if you get vibes and adjusting the control arms doesn't fix it, should you even consider installing the drop.
__________________
'04 WJ, 6" Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 35" BFG MT KM2's, 4.56 gears, & D44a locked
'14 WK2 Limited w/5.7L, ORAI, & Tow Package
ArloGuthroJeep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.