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post #1 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Lift gate support mod

So my Dad was given a 1993 Grand Wagoneer that needs some work (172,xxx 5.2) and as we were going through it we noticed a rather ingenious mod to the rear liftgate supports. See the picture below. Metal tubing has got to be cheaper than new liftgate supports so I thought I'd share this with everyone.

Left to right: Opening, open, going down (without release), closing (with release).

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post #2 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 02:54 PM
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I feel dumb, but i dont get it.

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post #3 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 02:59 PM
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I get it. Just a cleaner way of hillbilly engineering than a broom stick prop.

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post #4 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 03:00 PM Thread Starter
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Essentially if your lift supports don't support the weight of the liftgate it won't come crashing down when opened. This eliminates the need to use something to prop it up basically.

"Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the one doing it." -Chinese Proverb
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post #5 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 04:21 PM
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No offense, but for $50 at Oreilly's, is it really worth it to try and engineer something you hope keeps a 100lb liftgate from falling and breaking your back in two?

I appreciate the thinking and ingenuity going in to thinking this up, but I just don't see the point when replacements are less than a tank of gasoline...

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post #6 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 04:24 PM
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Ahh very nice, if my supports go i will be doing this.
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post #7 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
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No offense, but for $50 at Oreilly's, is it really worth it to try and engineer something you hope keeps a 100lb liftgate from falling and breaking your back in two?

I appreciate the thinking and ingenuity going in to thinking this up, but I just don't see the point when replacements are less than a tank of gasoline...
I get what you're saying, though. Personally I like fixing things the way they should be but I think the PO on the Wagoneer given its condition (bad trans, rattle can paint job) and the repairs it needs probably didn't think it was justified. I think this method is far more secure than using a broom handle etc especially if it is employed on both lift supports.

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I get ya. I realize I've become a bit of a snob lately with my Orvis. It's in such nice condition I sometimes go a little overboard on it. I have definitely owned vehicles that the struts would have been 3/4 of the vehicle's worth. I've also been at the point where $50 for a set of liftgate struts or food for the next week for the family.

Sorry for my previous comment. I get now that it was pretty harsh. I use my hatch A LOT, and as such I'm willing to spend the extra for new struts. But back in Minnesota I barely used the rear end of my Blazer so they would have been a waste. In fact I used it so seldom I can't remember if it was a side opening (hinges in the fender) or top opening like our ZJ's.

And I agree. That system is far superior to any sort of broom handle or other removable support system. Yours is far less likely to fail because you bumped it with whatever you were stuffing in the back.

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post #9 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 06:47 PM
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Does it rattle a lot?

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post #10 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 07:37 PM
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I'd like to nominate this for retarded thread of the month.
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post #11 of 30 Old 07-20-2013, 08:35 PM
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That's a good idea. It would work just like a lock hinge and much safer than a broom handle. Thanks for posting that one.
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post #12 of 30 Old 07-21-2013, 12:00 AM
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I wonder if we can mod dual struts per side?
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post #13 of 30 Old 07-21-2013, 12:04 AM
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I wonder if we can mod dual struts per side?
why? lol

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Does it rattle a lot?
Probably not.

Do you drive down the road with the lift gate open?

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why? lol
Just being funny lol.
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