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Unread 07-14-2011, 09:10 PM   #46
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Unread 07-14-2011, 09:29 PM   #47
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I'd really like to take it to the desert as well. any special mods for that?
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Unread 07-30-2011, 09:21 PM   #48
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So i just found out i need new sway bar links and new control arm bushings. should i get special ones if i'm going to lift my jeep?
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Unread 07-30-2011, 10:32 PM   #49
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throw it up there and use ratchet strap to hold it down.

like this:

You do realize that in a collision that tire will fly off and possibly kill someone right?
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Unread 07-31-2011, 12:58 AM   #50
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You do realize that in a collision that tire will fly off and possibly kill someone right?
you mean if being run over by 2 tons of Detroit steel on great knobby tires didn't already do the job?

Good straps are rated at up to 6000 lbs, those probably rated at a ton, the inertia/speed required to break a 1 ton strap with a 30? 40? lb tire would insure that everyone in the car would die as well, since they weigh what? 175lbs, you ever see a seatbelt break? Things double in weight for every foot of free fall, so at 60 mph the adjusted "weight/inertia" of the tire would be maybe 100 lbs

How do I know it wouldn't break if those are quality straps?

12 years as a fireman paramedic that specialized in helicopter cliff rescues when people drove off cliffs in Northern California that responded to thousands of calls in that time, I saw thousands of examples of what occur in car crashes under the most extreme conditions imaginable, that Jeep would be the size of a Honda cvvc, but if properly secured that tire would still be there, the roof rack would be what failed actually, far before the straps

I work with straps like that all day long picking up things that weigh 2-3x what that Jeep Weighs, much less the tire, check the photos as well (the links)




https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...&id=1282565540



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...&id=1282565540

Truth is I could pick that entire Jeep up with those straps, 15 minutes, and two small (carryable) pieces of Tree Gear, and a 30' length of 5/8 climbing line (and a tree nearby), I lifted my Class B dump Truck engine out with straps that looked about like that

If he uses reputable, well made straps, secured by even a few half hitches to back up the ratchets it will be fine unless the Jeep rolls over on top of someone and the tire kills them, but at that point it's moot

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Unread 07-31-2011, 07:43 AM   #51
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you mean if being run over by 2 tons of Detroit steel on great knobby tires didn't already do the job?

Good straps are rated at up to 6000 lbs, those probably rated at a ton, the inertia/speed required to break a 1 ton strap with a 30? 40? lb tire would insure that everyone in the car would die as well, since they weigh what? 175lbs, you ever see a seatbelt break? Things double in weight for every foot of free fall, so at 60 mph the adjusted "weight/inertia" of the tire would be maybe 100 lbs

How do I know it wouldn't break if those are quality straps?

12 years as a fireman paramedic that specialized in helicopter cliff rescues when people drove off cliffs in Northern California that responded to thousands of calls in that time, I saw thousands of examples of what occur in car crashes under the most extreme conditions imaginable, that Jeep would be the size of a Honda cvvc, but if properly secured that tire would still be there, the roof rack would be what failed actually, far before the straps

I work with straps like that all day long picking up things that weigh 2-3x what that Jeep Weighs, much less the tire, check the photos as well (the links)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rc1l0WWcNU



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...&id=1282565540



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?p...&id=1282565540

Truth is I could pick that entire Jeep up with those straps, 15 minutes, and two small (carryable) pieces of Tree Gear, and a 30' length of 5/8 climbing line (and a tree nearby), I lifted my Class B dump Truck engine out with straps that looked about like that

If he uses reputable, well made straps, secured by even a few half hitches to back up the ratchets it will be fine unless the Jeep rolls over on top of someone and the tire kills them, but at that point it's moot


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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:00 AM   #52
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Mine as a DD was not lifted for 5 years and then lifted 4.5 to 6.5 for 11 or so years.

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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:15 AM   #53
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Mines at 3" and a DD. 31" tires on stock gears WILL dropkick your mpg, but you've learned one main thing so far:

YOU DRIVE A JEEP. MPG MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Now can we decide already if you're taking that lift or not??? Because there's lots of other people who would gladly take it if you really dont know. If it's taking this long, Im thinking a 2" bb on 30's is in your future.
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Unread 07-31-2011, 10:49 AM   #54
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Lift It! Best of Luck!
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Unread 07-31-2011, 02:28 PM   #55
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Same here blackjack, even without a lift. I hit a bear with it last summer and only had to get a new bumper.

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Unread 07-31-2011, 02:45 PM   #56
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Lift it!
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Unread 07-31-2011, 03:01 PM   #57
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i just lifted mine with rough country's f<b 3.5 inch lift with 31's km2's and its my dd i give like 14mpg with my 318 and out of all my buddies with lifted 5inch+ cherokees i can still hang with them in the trails no problem.
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Unread 07-31-2011, 03:05 PM   #58
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Unread 07-31-2011, 03:06 PM   #59
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Just my 2sense> i have calculated my mpgs ever since i got my jeep and it is always between 19.4 and 21.1mpgs... Although mine is at stock height, stock size tires. But cold air intake, new plugs, wires, cap, rotor and Exhaust>... just sayin
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Unread 07-31-2011, 03:09 PM   #60
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Looks Sick as hell.... LOVE IT. once i get the few extra dollars (next couple of years.. lol) im painting mine all black also..
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