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post #1 of 8 Old 08-23-2009, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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im fighting death wobble and losing miserably

so as the title says, i am indeed fighting death wobble. its gotten to the point that im avoiding the jeep as much as i can. its like dw is breathing down my neck every second im in it. i got dw as i was going 70 once with my girlfriend and her 4yr old brother in the back and it scared the crap out of me. i really need to fix this before anything bad happens. money is really tight right now so im cheaping out (even though i know i shouldnt). what do you think of this kit? SUSPENSION JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 99-04 BALL JOINT ENDS :eBay Motors (item 140339219151 end time Sep-10-09 12:11:42 PDT)

if you were in my position, would you go for it? i know cheap parts arent the way to go but i really cant drop $200+ right now.

i got an alignment a bit ago. i have a fresh rancho SS. Bushings, LCA's, and TB are all in good condition. so i figured this was my next step. If anyone thinks i should do something differently, please let me know

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post #2 of 8 Old 08-24-2009, 12:03 AM
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Check your uppers.


While we were doing my long arms, I noticed tht my upper control arm bushings were disintegrated giving me DW at above 45mph, only with the passenger side front tire. That's the bushing that was shot.

Check your uppers.

Unbolt upper arm one at a time and see if the bushings are good.

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Check your uppers.


While we were doing my long arms, I noticed tht my upper control arm bushings were disintegrated giving me DW at above 45mph, only with the passenger side front tire. That's the bushing that was shot.

Check your uppers.

Unbolt upper arm one at a time and see if the bushings are good.
thanks a lot, i think ill check that out tomorrow. i figured that the ball joints and tre's and such are all stock and after 150,000 miles, its time to change them anyway. so i think im going to order that set anyway.

if the bushings are shot, where can i get just UCA bushings? is that something kolak would have? also, if one bushing is shot, im just going to replace them all. might as well

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My TRE's are in god condition, but the joints at the draglink are all shot.

I have about 3in of play in my steering wheel, but no DW even at 85.

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post #5 of 8 Old 08-24-2009, 01:01 AM Thread Starter
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so i just read over that listing again and realized it said tie rod ends and outer tie rod ends. can someone explain....

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Would I buy that junk for my WJ, no. But if you're in a bind, I guess your options are limited....

The joint ends are for the tie-rod and draglink. They don't refer to them as draglink ends. Looks to be the complete set of ends.

I see you have the Zone 4" kit. From the description, it comes with only fixed lower control arms. That gives you zero adjustability in terms of caster. If your caster is off, it can contribute to DW.

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post #7 of 8 Old 08-24-2009, 05:51 AM
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Plus, doesn't it come with a DPA and DTB?

Check the DTB for stress. Or, get a JKS and use your stock pitman arm.

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post #8 of 8 Old 08-24-2009, 07:34 AM
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I'd check that front end thorughly. Track bar, control arm bushings, etc, etc. Then replace what's needed.

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