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Unread 01-06-2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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How many 1993 ZJ Grand Wagoneers were there?

Mine is the only one Ive ever seen locally...ever, People are always asking my I put on woodgrain, so clearly these got in under the radar and the mainstream.

So Im wondering...how rare are they and about how many were produced?

From what Ive read, it was basically a Grand Cherokee with Special plush leather seats, all the wood paneling inside, factory fog lights, all power options, woodgrain exterior with simulated metal strips around the wood, 5.2 V8 automatic, 4X4 only, Laredo 5 spokes...

And some things Ive read or been told that I cant prove or find any evidence of.

Sits a hair higher than other 93 ZJ's?
roof rack sliders were not installed at the factory.

And one little oddball thing...On the woodgrain strip that runs around the RF wheel well has a Chrysler Emblem on it, but the strip on the drivers side does not, all Grand Wags were like that.

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Unread 01-06-2012, 10:45 PM   #2
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Of the 1,251,473 ZJ's ever built, 6,378 were grand wagoneers.

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Unread 01-06-2012, 11:05 PM   #3
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Jeez, all the hours Ive spent anxiously reading over the internet hoping to one day find a definitive number...and there it is.

0.5%...of ZJ's were Grand Wags...nice.
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Unread 01-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #4
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Jeez, all the hours Ive spent anxiously reading over the internet hoping to one day find a definitive number...and there it is.

0.5%...of ZJ's were Grand Wags...nice.
even less 5-speeds
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Unread 01-07-2012, 02:02 AM   #5
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5-speed, thats a rare find on a ZJ, grand wagoneer ZJs are rare, i'd keep It as long as you can!!
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Unread 01-07-2012, 04:34 AM   #6
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Mine is the only one Ive ever seen locally...ever...
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Unread 01-07-2012, 09:07 AM   #7
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Unread 01-07-2012, 11:02 AM   #8
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I like it i want one

P.s. your oil pressure is a little high
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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:07 PM   #9
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A little high ? thats way too high, hes at 70psi..

I've seen a few grand wagoneers where i live. Bout the same as see'ing 5.9's on the road. Only 1 every few months
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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #10
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We went through this debate a few months back.

Ive confirmed that the factory gauge is correct, using a mechanical gauge...it hits 70psi on cold startup. HOT, and in gear, with old oil in it..It sits around 50ish. My 98 Ram with the 360 was the same way, but it got down to 40ish hot and in gear.

I use 10W40 with a quart of lucas stabilizer at every change, the previous owner also used lucas. No leaks, no smoke, no odd noises...226,153 miles on it as of this morning.
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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #11
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Just snapped these pics under the hood a few minutes ago...





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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:33 PM   #12
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The other differences:
1) steering wheel/airbag same color as interior (instead of black)
2 ) no deep window tint
3) pillowtop/biscuit top leather seats
4) Limited snowflake wheels, that I think were silver (instead of limiteds gold) But I have seen them with the Laredo 5 spokes. My guess is that they ran low on those special snowflake wheels, and used Laredos instead on a decent percentage of the production.
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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:35 PM   #13
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The seats... i dont see how they are different.... i see ZJ's from 95 and under ALLL the time with those seats..
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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:45 PM   #14
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I think the cushioning is deeper and thicker, and Im pretty sure the covering is a little thicker. My cousin had a 1995 ZJ and it had a similar leather design but it was thin and ripped pretty easy.

This is the ZJ leather interior I see most often, a smooth vinyl like design.

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Unread 01-07-2012, 12:47 PM   #15
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Here is a non GW with seats similar to mine.

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