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post #1 of 22 Old 08-07-2003, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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How is everyone???

Hey everyone, i just sold my honda del sol, for a jeep grand cherokee laredo. the honda was a 1994 del sol, and the jeep is a 2001. I've got the I6, and i just wanted to know, what do you guys think, is there enough juice to run the huge grand cherokee with a good amount of power?? also, do you guys think that was for me, a change for better or for worse? i think it's for better, because my del sol was a little small for my first car. anyways, that's it for my first post as a jeep owner,
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post #2 of 22 Old 08-07-2003, 09:00 PM
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Wesley,

is the Grand a 00 or 01? The thread says 01 and the sig says 00.

Take some time to read through the posts and some time to read through www.nagca.com and www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums.


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post #3 of 22 Old 08-07-2003, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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sorry, it's a 2000. thanks for the sites hunter. so, what do yall say, are you happy with your jeeps?? i heard that the jeep grand cherokee's brake's aren't that good. have any of you experienced that??
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post #4 of 22 Old 08-07-2003, 09:54 PM
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i have an 95 I6... she's my baby and been the best thing i've ever purchased. reliable like all hell, and is enough for me now (my next will be an 8... you know, when i have a real job and all )

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post #5 of 22 Old 08-08-2003, 04:52 AM
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so, what do yall say, are you happy with your jeeps?? i heard that the jeep grand cherokee's brake's aren't that good. have any of you experienced that??

I also have a 2000 WJ with the 4.Slow Inline, but I have the Limited package. That engine is definately underpowered. Things to do to give you some bump and not lose your warranty - Cold-air intake, take off that 26" long muffler and install a free-flow cat and different exhaust, and get a reprogram chip from Jet Performance (they are the only company to make one for the WJ). If your warranty is expired already, Vortech makes a 6-lb boost supercharger for the inline-6.

Yes the brakes SUCK. I'll be doing a brake job on mine next week and replacing the rotors with Power-slots and Akebono ceramic compound pads. Brembo makes a 332mm 4-pot Big brake kit for it, but you will have to put at least 17" wheels on it and the kit is around $2,800 for just the fronts...no rear kit is made that I'm aware of.

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Ok, well, that's all i wanted to know, thank you all. You guys are a lot cooler than Honda-tech.com they'd call me a n00b and stuff like that. thanks for taking care of my question, and if there is anything else you'd care to tell me, please do, too much knowledge is not a good thing...
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Milous has put together a wonderful site answering just about any general question you may have on the WJ. If you don't find it on the site, email him and 9 times out of 10, he'll be able to help you out. Is a really helpful person. His site is http://www.wjjeeps.com/index.htm

Tenafly Chrysler is a good place to buy those general parts that you can only get from the dealership (the hood and rear glass shocks are a good example), but don't want to pay dealer prices. All parts are wholesale, or damn near close to it. They can be found here - http://www.tenaflyjeepmoparparts.com/

If you need anything else, I've compiled a pretty large WJ site database since i bought my 2000. drop an email.

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Yes the brakes SUCK. I'll be doing a brake job on mine next week and replacing the rotors with Power-slots and Akebono ceramic compound pads. Brembo makes a 332mm 4-pot Big brake kit for it, but you will have to put at least 17" wheels on it and the kit is around $2,800 for just the fronts...no rear kit is made that I'm aware of.
Thats really not needed on these trucks in my opinion. I come from the VERY high peformance audi/VW world (worked on the fastest S4 in the country). These things stop damn good for what they are. My jetta is pushing 250hp to the front wheels with 12 inch brakes at just about 3K lbs with me in it. For 800lbs more and smaller brakes my GC hauls down even in all the rain we have had in NJ for the last week now.

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but you must remember that the 99+ brakes are not the same as on your 94'. If I remember correctly, they are taken from the Dodge Durango. The brakes on the 2000's really do suck. Mine shudder and lose grip under heavy braking conditions...and I'm not talking about ABS slippage...they really do break loose...at some points, it feels as if the entire brake assembly is going to come apart. I agree that the 332mm Big brake kit is not necessary, but what is on there from the factory is not even adequate in the slightest.

I also come from a long line of high performance automobiles. Along with the Jeep, I also have an 85' Porsche 928S Euro with racing cam, B&B headers and exhaust and soon to be supercharged, and a 1966' Mercury Cyclone GT outfitted with a 429cu.in. set to run straight track. (low 11's at current with left bank needing to be rebuilt).

I deal in Porsche's all day long and have had more than average track time in various RSR's, RS's, turbo s', 930's, etc.

Even under normal driving conditions, the stock braking system is sub-par.

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Ah didnt' know that they changed them, just started this whole jeep thing. We're getting alot of trucks in on trades for Touraregs, if I see a 99+ in I'll take a look, I am curious now.

Have you tried different pads, possible they are too soft for the braking you are doing and leaving deposits on the rotors when they heat up?? I get this on my jetta when out for some hard runs thats even with 12.1s on the front of that car but lowly mintex red box pads.

you may be interested in this car, 87 (I think not sure on the year) 928S. Glass 944 turbo relica nose made to fit stock 944 turbo front fenders, and 944 gts or r or somethign like that rear fenders. 944 front and rear brakes control arms etc. Getting a fully built twin turbo 944 motor. Owned by the fabricator at the shop I used to work at, name is Kenny McNeil, cant' wait till its all done

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Ok, so the brakes do suck. what do yall say i should do about it, cause all i need, is to hit the person in front of me in heavy braking conditions. would changing the pads do anything, or does the whole braking system suck. thanks guys, i'm glad i'm out of honda-tech.com, cause yall treat me a lot better. they were always acting like stuck up idiots. anyways, once again, what do yall think i should do??
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Thats really not needed on these trucks in my opinion. I come from the VERY high peformance audi/VW world (worked on the fastest S4 in the country). These things stop damn good for what they are. My jetta is pushing 250hp to the front wheels with 12 inch brakes at just about 3K lbs with me in it. For 800lbs more and smaller brakes my GC hauls down even in all the rain we have had in NJ for the last week now.
wanna buy my stage 2 S4? it is for sale to buy another jeep. 2000 brilliant black, fully loaded with Giac ECU and Borla exhaust.

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wanna buy my stage 2 S4? it is for sale to buy another jeep. 2000 brilliant black, fully loaded with Giac ECU and Borla exhaust.

Nah, don't want a black one and I dont' need the exhaust or chip I can get both at cost still, I used to do the GIAC installs where I worked.

As for brakes I'll look into it sometime this week. I gotta head down to the shop I Was working at to dyno my jetta I'll check out pad options in the catalogs we have there.

What exactly are the brake issues people are having on the later models?? Fade, bad hot braking, bad cold braking, intial bite problems.

We got another GC in over the weekend, but it was an ealier (maybe 96 ish) limited so I am assuming from what people are sayng the brakes are the same as my 94 right?? I'll keep my eye out for a later one, luckily this one has a hitch and hopefully they will let me take it.

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i really don't know what to advise. Like I said, I'll be changing out my rotors and pads this month sometime. If that doesn't improve it significantly, I'll be seeing about retrofitting 996 GT3 6-pot calipers to my Jeep (only because I can get them for cost). I'll let you know if they rotor/pad upgrade does anything for brake performance.

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Does the ABS control the bias on these things, is it fixed, axle height dependent??

If its either of the later then those are gonna throw the bias way off not to mention probably kill modulation, thats like 4Xs he piston area not something you can just swap to without running into master cylinder/bias issues. Havent' dealt with any of the 6 pots but I know with the boxster calipers and similar you need at least a large 16" or 17" wheel, with a crazy offset. I have done a bunch of big brake swaps onto audis and it was always a nitemare trying to get the right wheels to fit, they were all similar ni dimesions to what those GT3 brakes would be, rotor surface to outer face of the caliper.

The Touareg comes with the same calipers I think, so I'll take a look at them at work. They were the same brakes as the Cayanne, minus the Porsche lettering, someone traded one in on a Touareg, possibly the same as a GT3 caliper??

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