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post #1 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
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How do you change the cap and rotor. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like it might require dropping the engine!?

How do you remove the fuel line from the fuel rail on the driver's side? I pulled the metal clip off and then gave it a good tug and it didn't budge. Once the bung on the rail started flexing, I figured I shouldn't pull any more.

Along those lines, is there a fuel system schematic available? I didn't notice any return line back to the tank. Does this system use one or is it dead-headed?


1996 Grand Cherokee Lorado
Stock, so far, 190k mi
5.2 liter DOA, NP 249 xfer
46 RH trans with 2.45(1), 1.45(2), 1(3), 0.69(4), 2.21(R)

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post #2 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, great suggestions.

Also trying to figure how to get the t-handle shifter knob off of the auto shifter.

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Stock, so far, 190k mi
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46 RH trans with 2.45(1), 1.45(2), 1(3), 0.69(4), 2.21(R)

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post #3 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 02:16 PM
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Since you got your Jeep for free then you can splurge for a Haynes manual for the Jeep. A $ 19 investment will go a long way.

Two screws on the distributor cap housing is all it takes to remove it! Then pull up on the rotor to remove that. Since this appears to be your first time, I would label the wires with masking tape on the original set.

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To pull the shifter, grasp it firmly and pull up......hard

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+2 to getting yourself a Haynes or Chilton manual.

You don't drop the engine for the cap/rotor. Just climb up in to the engine compartment if you're small enough, or stand on a chair next to it and hang over.

You just line up the number 1 terminal of the new cap with the number 1 terminal of the old cap, so they are oriented the same way, then start switching the plug wires over to the new cap in order. The rotor just pulls straight upward, then the new one goes down in place of the old one.

The fuel lines require a spring lock coupling tool to separate. You can get this tool at Autozone, Checker, PepBoys, etc. It is not a returnless fuel system. In other words, yes, there is a return line to the tank. Is there a fuel system problem or something?

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post #6 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 03:13 PM
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Guys,
He is being sarcastic when he is talking about the cap. He realy dosent like jeeps and is giving us jeepers a hard time here. Read his prior posts.

I apologize to any ford fans in advance who read this!

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/engine-swap-procedure-questions-329003/

He realy should buy a book and learn how to read it!








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post #7 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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I have the Chilton manual. Not very helpful. I would like the factory manuals, eventually.

I honestly don't see how to get into the cap area. My hands aren't that big, but still, I'm not a contortionist.

Thanks for the input on the fuel rail. I'm swapping engines. Does this tool work on the ac condenser hard line connections too?

My brother has been helping me with the engine removal. He agrees with my disdain for the lack of engineering consideration on this vehicle. So much so that he wanted one and now doesn't. It's fair to like your zj but don't have a blind worship.

For those of you who don't like my complaining, the only ones of you who's opinion counts are those of you who have already done what I'm doing, R&R the engine and transmission. Otherwise, how can you speak up? You don't know.

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''If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong.''
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How'd you know I look like a soap star and can't act?

1996 Grand Cherokee Lorado
Stock, so far, 190k mi
5.2 liter DOA, NP 249 xfer
46 RH trans with 2.45(1), 1.45(2), 1(3), 0.69(4), 2.21(R)

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post #11 of 19 Old 10-24-2006, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
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"He realy should buy a book and learn how to read it!"

Other than needing to know how to spell in order to read, I thought the purpose of this forum was to be able to get help from the community? Am I wrong?

Most of you are unsatisfied with your Jeeps, but are more positive about it than me. What blaspheme do I speak?? Yes it's true. Most of you have done extensive MODIFICATIONS to your Jeep and boast about it. So, the ZJ is not a perfect vehicle, we all admit it. So if you'll forgive my disappointment at the disregard for serviceability, I'll overlook the fact that most of you are disappointed at the ride height, axle strength, stock stereo, etc.

Despite my complaining, most of which is valid, you have to give me credit... I'm embarking on a project well beyond what most on this board will ever attempt, and have yet to even drive my Jeep. How's that for dedication? Perhaps at the end of it, I'll even help other unsuspecting victims who attempt the same endeavor.

Thanks for those who have given me technical answers. The engine is out, but there's still a lot of work to do.

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Stock, so far, 190k mi
5.2 liter DOA, NP 249 xfer
46 RH trans with 2.45(1), 1.45(2), 1(3), 0.69(4), 2.21(R)

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If your going to put a new engine in it and want more power, try getting a 5.9. If you're reusing the stock block, you can put in a 340 crank.

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"He realy should buy a book and learn how to read it!"

Other than needing to know how to spell in order to read, I thought the purpose of this forum was to be able to get help from the community? Am I wrong?

Most of you are unsatisfied with your Jeeps, but are more positive about it than me. What blaspheme do I speak?? Yes it's true. Most of you have done extensive MODIFICATIONS to your Jeep and boast about it. So, the ZJ is not a perfect vehicle, we all admit it. So if you'll forgive my disappointment at the disregard for serviceability, I'll overlook the fact that most of you are disappointed at the ride height, axle strength, stock stereo, etc.

Despite my complaining, most of which is valid, you have to give me credit... I'm embarking on a project well beyond what most on this board will ever attempt, and have yet to even drive my Jeep. How's that for dedication? Perhaps at the end of it, I'll even help other unsuspecting victims who attempt the same endeavor.

Thanks for those who have given me technical answers. The engine is out, but there's still a lot of work to do.
Most are unsatisfied with the jeep not because it doesn't work as they wish, they want it to work better, go farther, lifts etc. No vehicle is perfect anyways. I'm not going to lie, Straight out of high school i was doing everything I wanted to my jeep with nothing more then a haynes manual. I don't understand how you say there is a disregard for servicability. Everything is simple, and easy enough to figure out for the average person. Ride height is actually decent for stock, and these vehicles also perform very well straight from the factory. We complain about axle strength as we start adding much larger tires, pushing the trucks further then they were ever intended. There is no reason to go overkill from the factory with bigger axles, as it would decrease ground clearance with the stock tires, and its basically impossible to break an axle shaft on stock sized tires anyways. As for your comment on the stock stereo, it only shows your ignorance. Basically anyone with the Infinity system that came stock in many/most jeeps is very happy with that system.

Please, if you need help, ask but the more you talk negatively about these vehicles in a forum of caring owners will not get you the information you are looking for.

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thankyou and well said AP!












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post #15 of 19 Old 10-26-2006, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Having worked on many, many vehicles, I can tell you that this one wasn't designed for serviceability in mind.

Some of the points I have brought up are valid. The distributor cap is a #&@#% to change. The transmission is difficult to remove. Did you try to get to the four top bolts ever? I don't know you AP, so have you done an engine swap? The top bolt on the xfer case is a super pain. I'm not the only one that believes so, if you search the archives. I don't think I should have to pull the transfer case lever and go through the cab to remove a bolt on the transfer case (without needing a special tool to get at it from underneath). The transfer case does not come out without lowering the tranny (am I wrong, wouldn't it have been an intelligent thing to design the vehicle so that the transfer case could come out without fussing with the tranny???!!!) Removing the bumper covers is hell getting to the clips below the lights. ETC.

Some of the other stuff looks easy. The suspension and steering linkage is all straight forward.

As for me being ignorant of stereo systems...let's just leave it at: you don't know who your talking to.

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Stock, so far, 190k mi
5.2 liter DOA, NP 249 xfer
46 RH trans with 2.45(1), 1.45(2), 1(3), 0.69(4), 2.21(R)

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