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post #1 of 13 Old 09-09-2012, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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Help Please Trac bar Fixed?

I helped my mechanic install a new trac bar in my AWD 94 GC. I had the ball end installed and axle end bolted loosely. He welded in some bushings where holes were wollered. He then tried to install bolt but bushing end was not close enough to the mount. He got out a come-along and hooked one end in the TB lower mount area and then searched for a place to hook on drivers side. He ended up hooking it to the sway bar near the bend. He cranked the trac bar into alignment with the mount holes and installed bolt. I told him I thought bolt should be at 55-60LBS and he just kept tightening it while in the air on rack with a regular ratchet. He's one of those don't tell me anything fellas.

Now I have no death wobble but my steering feels different... When making left turns especially, it feels bound and there is more power steering whine. Also I believe I now feel a bad driveshaft clunk when getting on and letting off gas.

Did he/we just throw off everything?

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post #2 of 13 Old 09-09-2012, 07:59 PM
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i would re-torque everything by myself. investing in a nice torque wrench was one of the best investments i've made.

what is it with all these "mechanics" that impact all the bolts? all my 'expert' friends do the same and it pisses me off. i don't care if you've been playing with cars for 20 years; i studied meche for two years and you cannot tell me that over or under torquing doesn't matter, especially on a 15 year old car.

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I don't see where he used an impact.

Trackbar should be torqued to around 125' lbs while the Jeep is on the ground. To get it to line up correctly you should have the axle side disconnected and turn the steering wheel to get it lined up.
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From what i have been learning in my auto classes you never use an impact unless loosening something... If i ever take my car in to a shop i always tell the tech not to tighten my lugs with an impact. Ive learned a trick with a torque wrench that is just as fast as using an impact

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All you have to do to get the track bar to line up is turn the steering wheel. It will move the body over the axle when the track bar is disconnected. Then you just put the bolt in. Two people make it really easy. Your mech is kind of dumb. Before I do that I like to bounce and pull the ZJ and let it settle where it like to be naturally. Then I adjust the track bar and button it all up.
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Ive learned a trick with a torque wrench that is just as fast as using an impact
what is it!

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Ive learned a trick with a torque wrench that is just as fast as using an impact
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post #8 of 13 Old 09-10-2012, 06:50 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice. Here's some related questions

1)How many pounds at trac bars axle end? 55,120... The bolt is a M10 10.9? How many pounds at tie rod end?

2) Could the come-along have thrown something else out causing some steering issues?
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Axle end = 55 ft. lbs.
Ball stud nut = 60 ft. lbs. (don't forget the cotter pin)

Use Polka's tip for "settling" the front end first.
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Well its just as fast if i start the lugs fingertight then torque it. But you take the torque wrench and hold it paralell to the centerline of the wheel and you dont have to apply alot of force to get it to click at 120 ft/lbs. my teacher did a demo and he was just as fast as a tech with an impact

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Mine is torqued to gorilla.
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Mine is torqued to gorilla.
Mine too . Torquing to spec gave me clunks . Putting a lot more force got rid of the clunk . Then again , I have upgraded all the bolts as well . Stock bolts are not the best .
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What got rid of my steering clunk is adjusting the bearing pre load on the steering box and adding new fluid.
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