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question4u92 09-22-2013 06:46 PM

Help Me Put a Distributor On...
 
So I'm only 16, and I do have a good of general mechanical know-how especially regarding Jeeps, but distributors are totally new to me...

I have a 4.7 stroker in my ZJ, and it's in the process of being reassembled, and I'm to the point where I'm doing things, I'm not so sure about by myself lol.

Could you guys help me out and tell me exactly how do I install this new distributor... I'll post pics if needed!

jabba974 09-22-2013 08:00 PM

The best thing you could do is buy a repair manual, like Haynes...It will give you a good amount of info on repairs like what you are doing... But typically, you want the motor up to top dead center before you drop the distributer in...and set the position the rotor is facing as number 1 cylinder....

ZeeJay1997 09-23-2013 05:10 AM

here is step by step from FSM. pics are linked within.

question4u92 09-23-2013 02:25 PM

I'm so lost at where I'm suppose to find top dead center of the first piston. They mention to rotate the crankshaft until you feel pressure on your finger. So I feel pressure on my finger, but the piston isn't even all the way up yet.

Am I doing something wrong or what? Can someone start by telling me exactly how to find TDC, and from there how to install...

V65Ozzie 09-23-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by question4u92 (Post 16252649)
I'm so lost at where I'm suppose to find top dead center of the first piston. They mention to rotate the crankshaft until you feel pressure on your finger. So I feel pressure on my finger, but the piston isn't even all the way up yet.

Am I doing something wrong or what? Can someone start by telling me exactly how to find TDC, and from there how to install...

Get to piston number 1. stick finger over the hole, have engine rotated by hand until you feel pressure pushing your finger off, this is the compression stroke. I then use a pencil, put inside the spark plug hole, and rotate more until the pencil comes out no further and starts to drop, hold the pencil, so it slides out straight, then backup a tad and bring it back up again to get a "feel". Your #1 is now at top dead center. I used to have a whistler tool, but someone "borrowed" it. Install the distributor with the rotor button pointing to where it should be for number 1(you did mark it before you took it out, right?)

question4u92 09-23-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by V65Ozzie (Post 16252969)
Get to piston number 1. stick finger over the hole, have engine rotated by hand until you feel pressure pushing your finger off, this is the compression stroke. I then use a pencil, put inside the spark plug hole, and rotate more until the pencil comes out no further and starts to drop, hold the pencil, so it slides out straight, then backup a tad and bring it back up again to get a "feel". Your #1 is now at top dead center. I used to have a whistler tool, but someone "borrowed" it. Install the distributor with the rotor button pointing to where it should be for number 1(you did mark it before you took it out, right?)


I'm probably over complicating this, but when you say back it up, you mean just back it up until it hits the top again right? I was shining a bright light down into the block, and I can see when the piston starts to drop again....

As for the rotor button I have no clue lmfao... I'm not the one who took the old engine apart! xD

jm8881 09-23-2013 03:05 PM

The easiest most surefire way I know that doesn't involve any guessing is to remove the valve cover and look at the #1 rockers. Turn the crankshaft until your timing lines line up at tdc and look at the rockers. At tdc compression both rockers should be at the same position. The valves should be closed, but the last valve to open and close should have been the intake valve indicating that you are at the top of the compression stroke.

If your intake valve just opened and closed and your harmonic balancer is lined up with your timing marks at 0*btdc then you're good to go.

question4u92 09-23-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jm8881 (Post 16253721)
The easiest most surefire way I know that doesn't involve any guessing is to remove the valve cover and look at the #1 rockers. Turn the crankshaft until your timing lines line up at tdc and look at the rockers. At tdc compression both rockers should be at the same position. The valves should be closed, but the last valve to open and close should have been the intake valve indicating that you are at the top of the compression stroke.

If your intake valve just opened and closed and your harmonic balancer is lined up with your timing marks at 0*btdc then you're good to go.

How do I know if my harmonic balancer is lined up?

question4u92 09-23-2013 03:18 PM

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2s8mfxj.jpg
Here's a picture of the gear, there's a small dot on it if you guys can make it out. When you guys talk about how to line up the distributor, do you mean that, that dot has to be facing piston 1? Or am I getting that wrong?

Also, is there a gasket that goes on the distributor?

jm8881 09-23-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by question4u92 (Post 16253977)
How do I know if my harmonic balancer is lined up?

You're harmonic balance should have at least one timing mark on it, usually a line etched into it, that will line up with your timing marks on the timing chain cover.

Look at this link http://tomasz.korwel.net/2006/12/19/...s-40l-engines/

jm8881 09-23-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by question4u92 (Post 16254129)
Here's a picture of the gear, there's a small dot on it if you guys can make it out. When you guys talk about how to line up the distributor, do you mean that, that dot has to be facing piston 1? Or am I getting that wrong?

Also, is there a gasket that goes on the distributor?

There is a gasket that seals the distributor.

question4u92 09-23-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jm8881 (Post 16254217)
There is a gasket that seals the distributor.

You're really being a lifesaver man, thanks! That link you sent is rather helpful... I need pictures lol.

jm8881 09-23-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by question4u92 (Post 16254305)
You're really being a lifesaver man, thanks! That link you sent is rather helpful... I need pictures lol.

No problem, glad I could help. Good luck on the project!

:cheers2:

question4u92 09-24-2013 01:28 PM

Alright so I'm just going to recap....

What I need to do is, get the engine to top dead center, by rotating the crankshaft until I feel the compression on my finger, and then I keep raising the cylinder until it reaches the top.

I then set the oil screw to about 11 o'clock.

From there I set the distributor in, and the cap has a "1" written on it literally. I set the "1" to where it's facing the number one cylinder. And I set the timing to 0 degrees.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm getting so lost where people are telling me you have to line your marks up, when I have a mark on the gear (not placed there by me), and there's a "1" stamped into the distributor cap.

OverlandZJ 09-24-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by question4u92 (Post 16282057)
Alright so I'm just going to recap....

What I need to do is, get the engine to top dead center, by rotating the crankshaft until I feel the compression on my finger, and then I keep raising the cylinder until it reaches the top.

I then set the oil screw to about 11 o'clock.

From there I set the distributor in, and the cap has a "1" written on it literally. I set the "1" to where it's facing the number one cylinder. And I set the timing to 0 degrees.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm getting so lost where people are telling me you have to line your marks up, when I have a mark on the gear (not placed there by me), and there's a "1" stamped into the distributor cap.


As your coming up with compression on #1 you can just align the harmonic balancer up with the 0 on timing cover. Lets assume the timing gears were set correctly by the rebuilder.

Take a look down the dist hole with a light, verify where the slot is on oil pump drive.. you can rotate it to where you need it with a long screwdriver.

Then drop the dist in, keeping in mind that the rotor will turn as the gear seats on the camshaft. If you find the rotor pointing past 1.. turn the rotor back a tad further as you start to drop it in..you can dial it in a tooth at a time. You will have already set the timing mark to 0 before you dropped the dist in.


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