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Unread 11-26-2006, 05:10 AM   #1
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headlight assembly removal

How do I remove the headlight assembly on a 97 Grand Cherokee?
The inside of the lense is filthy and reducing the light from the headlight.
I want to remove the bulb and spray the inside to clean it.....
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Unread 11-26-2006, 05:55 AM   #2
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Not sure, but later models just take the screw out and pull staight out. Hanes manual,cheap and effective
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Unread 11-26-2006, 06:02 AM   #3
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I tried that, removed the bolt on the top but the bottom of the assembly still seems to be attached somehow....
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Unread 11-26-2006, 07:41 AM   #4
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Remove the lamp from behind. Pull straight forward on housing (its quite difficult to remove and replace). there are no bolts or screws to remove. It is much easier to get a grip if the grill and corner lamp housing are removed. A Hayne's manual might be helpful.

There are several threads on restoring headlight lenses, you might want to review them first. Most folks find that the discoloration is on the face of the lens.

http://jeepforum.com/forum/showthrea...eadlight+clean
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Unread 11-26-2006, 07:43 AM   #5
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There is a ball and socket assembly directly behind the head light. You need to pull really hard straight forward towards you. The downside of this ball and socket is that the socket snaps into pieces sometimes. Hint: do not do this on a Sunday when the dealership is closed.
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Unread 11-26-2006, 08:26 AM   #6
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thanks, from reading the other thread I would suspect my problem is on the outside as well.
I think I am going to find some PlastiX and try it.
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Unread 11-26-2006, 08:43 AM   #7
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Steve,
Last time I heard the rumor mill talk about those little ball and socket clips, they said that the dealership doesn't carry them separately. You would need to purchase the whole light assembly to get the clips. I have looked threw a few parts store shelves for these clips as well and cant find them and have pretty much confirmed that one.

My next step is to head to the bone yards looking for ones that aren't all ready broken! This is stupid and frustrating that nobody makes these clips!
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Unread 11-26-2006, 09:28 AM   #8
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Thanks for that. Interesting! Yea my drivers side head light socket is broken, from me removing it. I tried to purchase a Help-Part from the local auto store, but it was not the correct part. So my head light has been loose for over a year. I have it stabilized using some semi-ridge foam. I would hate it if it was jiggling around and flickering up & down.

I am thinking of getting creative with that wrong part and trimming it with a Dremel it fit correctly.
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Unread 11-26-2006, 09:29 AM   #9
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Why not just buy new headlights anyway? I did, and I'm glad I did. Didn't have to worry about breaking any clips, and these are definitely clearer than I could have hoped to have made my old ones.
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Why not just buy new headlights anyway? I did, and I'm glad I did. Didn't have to worry about breaking any clips, and these are definitely clearer than I could have hoped to have made my old ones.
Were too cheap for that!





Steve,
Yea I have mine stabilized in a similar fashion for now. Drives me nuts to know its done like that, as I'm sure it dose you!
If you figure out how to make it work with that part, I'm sure plenty of us would be interested.
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I just replaced the headlamp assys last Friday. One of the little plastic bastard clips is adjustable. Its nearly impossible to tell if it is lined up right before you push it on. If you remove the side marker and parking light assys, then you can sort of see what you are doing. If you adjust the lamps, be sure to spray PB blaster down the adjuster or you strip out the assy. What a POS. Really.
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That's the thing with the aftermarkets, they don't seem to fit as well as the stockers. One of my adjusters broke, and I have to re-aim my lights since they're pointed right at the ground. The one with the broken adjuster doesn't seem to want to stay up, what stuff did you guys use to make it stay up? Does that affect your ability to take the headlights out again?
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That's the thing with the aftermarkets, they don't seem to fit as well as the stockers. One of my adjusters broke, and I have to re-aim my lights since they're pointed right at the ground. The one with the broken adjuster doesn't seem to want to stay up, what stuff did you guys use to make it stay up? Does that affect your ability to take the headlights out again?
The adjuster screws will not move on their own. So you must have broken one or more of the clips and now it won't hold the headlamp assy. Maybe you didn't press the lamp on the whole way. You must hear and feel 3 snaps on each lamp. If you pull the headlamp assy in an out, its only a matter of time until all the clips will break. Been there done that. What I did is take an old radiator hose and cut up 1" x 2" strips, and then shimmed the headlamp assys top and bottom. Very ghetto I know. But I drove it like that for years. I was constantly having to adjust the shims though.
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Unread 11-26-2006, 10:45 AM   #14
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That's the thing with the aftermarkets, they don't seem to fit as well as the stockers. One of my adjusters broke, and I have to re-aim my lights since they're pointed right at the ground. The one with the broken adjuster doesn't seem to want to stay up, what stuff did you guys use to make it stay up? Does that affect your ability to take the headlights out again?

I just used some foam packing material that a set of old speakers came in. I used a large enough chunk and formed it to fit the area, then I took a few dabs of clear silicone to hold it all in place. The light doesn't get hot enough to melt the foam. with the silicone the light doesn't bounce around. Is ghetto still a politically correct term?
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Steve,
Get on that research and development. The free market is calling you! from the sound of it you have a few sets of these clips sold on this thread alone!
Will help ease the beer budget!

budget, who is that "bud" guy anyway, and why is he always messing with my money? He really needs to get a job and leave my stack alone! If I ever get a hold of him, he will have some explaining to do!






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