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post #16 of 29 Old 04-06-2009, 07:36 AM Thread Starter
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After spending a lot of time looking at different things, I think i'm going to end up getting a pair of RE springs and a set of Bilstein 5100. From what I've heard about them and for $59.99 a shock with their buy 3 get 4th free deal, it seems too good to pass up.
My new ? is, If they will solve my ride problem, which one should I get first. Cash won't allow me to get both now. Which one will help the most now? Shocks or Springs?


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post #17 of 29 Old 04-06-2009, 08:03 AM
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I think Kolak has the MX6 shocks on sale, you could then adjust the ride to where ever you like it. It would suck to buy more shocks to still have a stiff ride. Try the adjustables.

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does kolak have a website? I've tried google searches before and couldn't find one

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It is under construction, email him at Kolak@aol.com and tell him you are from JF.

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post #20 of 29 Old 04-06-2009, 09:37 AM
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They don't make an MX-6 shock for 3.5" lift, stick with the Bilsteins or ask Kolak about the RE Monotubes.

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Didn't you just get new shocks? If I were you I would start with the springs and see how that feels. As far as shocks go, if you love off roading then you might want to research shock lengths. I had my heart set on the MX6's until I found out that they're a lot shorter than my RE monotubes.

I'm glad I researched this because my rear shocks allow 3 1/4" of droop and 6 3/4" of compression. If they were shorter I would not be happy. My front shocks have 11" of travel but I haven't taken those shock boots off yet so I don't know where they sit in relation to droop/compression.

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They have them for a 3" lift, 1/2" wouldn't really make any noticable difference. Or just add the bar pin eliminator to get the 1/2" added.

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Didn't you just get new shocks? If I were you I would start with the springs and see how that feels. As far as shocks go, if you love off roading then you might want to research shock lengths. I had my heart set on the MX6's until I found out that they're a lot shorter than my RE monotubes.

I'm glad I researched this because my rear shocks allow 3 1/4" of droop and 6 3/4" of compression. If they were shorter I would not be happy. My front shocks have 11" of travel but I haven't taken those shock boots off yet so I don't know where they sit in relation to droop/compression.
Dude, he has the RC shocks that come with the 3.5" F>R swap kit from IRO, they are notorious for being very stiff. Rear springs should also be done at the same time though to help solve the jittery rear end & vibrations plus ride even better.

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They have them for a 3" lift, 1/2" wouldn't really make any noticable difference. Or just add the bar pin eliminator to get the 1/2" added.
OP should measure hub to fender to see what the actual lift is. It seems a lot of 3.5" kits are really 4", RE springs for sure, so MX-6 or any shock designed for 3" lift would not ride like they should if you're really at 4".

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I figured that since they were new, he should give them a chance at least.

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post #25 of 29 Old 04-06-2009, 09:58 AM Thread Starter
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I should have notes the h2f the first time I talked about shocks. Idk about h2f but ground2f is 36" give or take a few cm

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post #26 of 29 Old 04-06-2009, 10:04 AM
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i would do the spring first dude.

if that doesnt solve it, then it likely would be the shocks.

check your front tie rods and your ball joints. i know i get a dead spot after hitting a bump and it drives me nuts.

i have bils on my ZJ and i love them. a great shock, i got them off of CL for super cheap used. but still very good...good luck getting the ZJ back to where you want.
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I just did the IRO 3.5" lift with new rear springs about 2 weeks ago and my first impressions were a little sketchy like yours. Rides a little rough, but I knew that the new springs would do that. Bumpsteer was real bad until I got it aligned, now it's barely noticeable. The biggest thing is that I went out this weekend and run it in the dunes pretty good to see how stuff holds up and now its on-road manners have improved. I don't know if the springs settled or "broke-in" if there is such a thing but it feels a lot better after a thrashing. Doesn't seem as jittery or tippy, maybe it's just me. IMO though new springs are not going to make it ride better than used front springs, I would try thrashing it a little and go from there. As for the DW, I too vote for bad tie-rod ends and or ball joints. Good luck.

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I just did the IRO 3.5" lift with new rear springs about 2 weeks ago and my first impressions were a little sketchy like yours. Rides a little rough, but I knew that the new springs would do that. Bumpsteer was real bad until I got it aligned, now it's barely noticeable. The biggest thing is that I went out this weekend and run it in the dunes pretty good to see how stuff holds up and now its on-road manners have improved. I don't know if the springs settled or "broke-in" if there is such a thing but it feels a lot better after a thrashing. Doesn't seem as jittery or tippy, maybe it's just me. IMO though new springs are not going to make it ride better than used front springs, I would try thrashing it a little and go from there. As for the DW, I too vote for bad tie-rod ends and or ball joints. Good luck.

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the only thing is the spring rate for the fronts. Aren't they a lot tougher to compress than rears?

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post #29 of 29 Old 05-08-2009, 01:50 PM Thread Starter
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I got a pair of rear RE springs and got them in. They are awesome compared to the stocks. My ride is still rough because of the shocks, but I can live with it for now.

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